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void.calc.org Contest: Pig Latin
Posted by Nick on 6 May 2000, 22:27 GMT

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Re: void.calc.org Contest: Pig Latin
JrJinfinity
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Interesting...doesn't really interest me though cause I'm busy working on 5 or 6 other asm projects of my own. I don't think I'll have time to do that, sounds fun if you've nothing better to do than that though.

visit my webpage please :)

     6 May 2000, 23:00 GMT


Re: Re: void.calc.org Contest: Pig Latin
Amalfi Marini  Account Info

get a TI89 first. Then I will recomend your website :)

     7 May 2000, 00:58 GMT


Re: Re: Re: void.calc.org Contest: Pig Latin
JrJinfinity  Account Info
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I would get a Ti-89 if I wasn't so cheap, and if TI knew what great importance "compatibilty issues" are to the prospective buyers.

I almost got one, then they went and messed everything up. They may do 3D, but that's all in programming and anyone who knows how can easily make a program that graphs 3D on the Ti-8x calcs. As far as memory sure more is better but compat vs mem, compatibilty always wins that's why IBM-compats made it and Macs hardly have any marketshare in comparison.

Besides IBM-compats can do more...OS-wise, software-wise, and hardware-wise (with componenet upgrades).

just cause I don't have a Ti-89 doesn't mean that my sites not worth viewing, expecially since not everyone has one! Even people who do sometimes prefer other models as well!

If TI gets a clue and makes Ti-89's compatible completely by way of software, hardware, and other things, I will definately get 1.

Do visit the website it's worth a look. :)

     7 May 2000, 01:14 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: void.calc.org Contest: Pig Latin
Amalfi Marini  Account Info

Yes, the incompatibility between ROMs is a problem. But things become interesting when this happens. Incompatibility makes programmers to start doing their job: solving a problem. And the practice makes the master. So, I think the TI89 is the best calc for studding low-level languages and to understand hardware, to solve incompatibility problems etc, the best for a system engineer. OK, incompatibility is annoying, but you have the most powerful calc in the world. You cannot compare z80 calc with a TI89/92. I recomend you to get a TI89 anyway, HW1 would be better, but problems with HW2 are almost solved.(I think, since I got a HW1). You'll get 702kb+188kb=890Kb.And the quality of the games and programs is very high. You won't regret.

I'll visit your web page.

What about this program of pig latin? there are several PC programs that makes this translation, I don't know what is this, but it sounds interesting...I think

     7 May 2000, 04:00 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: void.calc.org Contest: Pig Latin
ionix
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I'm kind of dissapointed here. Visual basic is o.k. but it requires all kinds of runtime and .dll's... C++ is o.k. but the graphics part of it really is awful and tedious. What I'm trying to say... is there a decent language out there?

     7 May 2000, 19:55 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: void.calc.org Contest: Pig Latin
MicroLITH Account Info

Borland Delphi, which is based on Object Pascal. (15th or so edition of the Borland Turbo Pascal compiler, for you fact-junkies).

All the GUI ease of VB, all of the language power of C++, no required runtime dlls, can create REAL dlls (IE C/C++ can use them), and has a true compiler.

I've used it to create C/S apps, OCXes for webpages, standalone apps, and it even works quite well as a game programming language. Hell, Delphi was written with itself :)

They're even making a linux version of the compiler/IDE

All that and it has it's own inline assembler :)

Can't beat Delphi. It walks on everything microsoft has to offer.

     8 May 2000, 15:09 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: void.calc.org Contest: Pig Latin
Free_Bird Account Info
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Please take this off-topic discussion elsewhere.

     8 May 2000, 18:08 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: void.calc.org Contest: Pig Latin
amicek  Account Info
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Let me tell you something right now; that was one of the most informative and interesting off-topic conversations I have ever read and I would appreciate if ticalc.org would leave it on the server!

(I don't have a clue what Delphi is but man would I like to find out now!)

amicek

     8 May 2000, 23:57 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: void.calc.org Contest: Pig Latin
David Phillips  Account Info
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It should be noted that Delphi and C++Builder (both made by Inprise aka Borland) are essentially the same compiler. The Visual Component Library (VCL) that encapsulates the Win32 API and makes Windows programming much easier (imho) was written in Delphi, but is used with C++Builder as well. It is too bad that they don't merge the IDE's, since they are essentially the same product just with a different front end to the compiler.

     9 May 2000, 06:57 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: void.calc.org Contest: Pig Latin
Jeff Jensen  Account Info

Dear person who thinks TI-89 has compatibility issues,

You are wrong. With the release of Doors OS 0.96, all that has been solved. No 2.04 or 1.05 crap. It all works out great. And I looked at your site, and your programs kindof, well, are, hmmm, below average. Take it from a person who knows what he is talking about.

Just because your too poor to buy an 89, don't feel obligated to dissing it!

     11 May 2000, 00:35 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: void.calc.org Contest: Pig Latin
JaggedFlame

I think what he means is that you can run any program on any calculator, without installing any kernel. Now THAT would be cool. :-)

     11 May 2000, 23:38 GMT

Re: void.calc.org Contest: Pig Latin
JrJinfinity  Account Info
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An idea of something more productive for a programming contest would be to see who could program the fastest, smallest, and most functional input routine. :)

Another idea would be who could program the most innovative, functional, fastest, stable, and smallest compression routine. Something faster than currently exsists, and also compresses with much better ratios not making a compressed program larger than the original was half the time. Also must be very small on calc (I.E. 200 bytes) :)

Another thing all source submitted should be commented fairly well. (just an idea!)

If you have any other ideas that could be useful feel free to give Void Productions a suggestion for future contests. :)

I'm not trying to discourage anyone from participating in this contest, just merely suggesting ideas for future contests. :)

-JrJinfinity

     6 May 2000, 23:42 GMT


Re: Re: void.calc.org Contest: Pig Latin
JaggedFlame

Nice site - by the way, does anyone know if there's a way to change the APD on a TI-86 (or, for that matter, any Z80 calculator)?

     7 May 2000, 03:35 GMT

Re: Re: Re: void.calc.org Contest: Pig Latin
JrJinfinity  Account Info
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Thanks,

I don't know much asm for the Ti-86 yet, I learning right now, it must be possible cause YAS only stays idle for aprox 1 min. then turns off, Aaron Curtis should know how he did that!

-JrJinfinity

     8 May 2000, 01:03 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: void.calc.org Contest: Pig Latin
Aaron Curtis  Account Info

YAS doesn't do anything with APD... it just has it's own counter in the main loop. You can turn the calculator off manually with port 3.

     8 May 2000, 10:08 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: void.calc.org Contest: Pig Latin
JrJinfinity  Account Info
(Web Page)

My appologies if you will, I haven't studdied Ti-86 asm much I'm just beggining to learn it, and was only assuming that because YAS shuts off sooner than any other Ti-86 asm shell I've used when idle.

BTW, Awesome shell Aaron keep up the good coding. I just can't wait until v1.0 is released.

-JrJinfinity

     8 May 2000, 10:18 GMT


Re: Re: Re: void.calc.org Contest: Pig Latin
David Phillips  Account Info
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Yeah, that would be quite trivial. Just write an interrupt routine that would set the APD counter to whatever you want whenever it gets reset. If you want a longer APD (but why?) then you would have to write your own APD code and might be a bit of work, but if you just want a shorter one it would be quite trivial. If it is greater than your time, set it to your time.

     8 May 2000, 04:23 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: void.calc.org Contest: Pig Latin
JaggedFlame

Could someone write it (if one doesn't already exist)? I don't know Z80 assembly, and I don't really want to learn it just to write this program...

     9 May 2000, 01:51 GMT

Re: void.calc.org Contest: Pig Latin
JaggedFlame

Wow! Fry mah hide! Thet Dialeckizer site is purdy right fine! Fry mah hide!

     7 May 2000, 00:18 GMT

Re: void.calc.org Contest: Pig Latin
annihilator_god Account Info
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well... i can do it with basica... in fact, i already have it done! but doing it in tibasic on a calc might be a little tougher. but getkey might be your best bet!

     7 May 2000, 02:41 GMT


Re: Re: void.calc.org Contest: Pig Latin
Jeff Meister  Account Info

I can do it in TI-Basic, probably mostly with inString( and some loops... but Asm would be harder...

- Jeff

     7 May 2000, 14:04 GMT


Re: Re: Re: void.calc.org Contest: Pig Latin
Cigamit  Account Info
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It really isnt that hard in Asm, the hard part is getting it below 60 bytes (I did it in 81 on my first try), or getting it down to 49 like Kirk. Now thats some mad leet optimation.

     13 May 2000, 10:14 GMT

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