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More TI-84 Plus News
Posted by Michael on 2 May 2004, 17:16 GMT

We have made several additions to the site for the new 84+ product line. The TI-84 Plus and TI-84 Plus Silver Edition pages have been added to our Calculators page. There is also now a TI-84 Plus section of the archives. Personally, I would recommend that only programs that require the 84+ to run be placed in the 84+ directories. Most if not all 83+ programs should run just fine.

Lastly, the 84 Plus Silver Edition has been available to the public for the last week. Your local Target store has them for $129.99. Most other places are still waiting for a shipment though. The 84 Plus remains widely available.

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Re: More TI-84 Plus News
leginuoh  Account Info

yay, that means my silver edition should be coming in the mail any day now...

Reply to this comment    2 May 2004, 17:27 GMT


Re: Re: More TI-84 Plus News
CajunLuke Account Info

I doubt I will convince my parents to buy me one. I convinced them I needed a v200 a year ago, but a calc a year could be a bit much.

Reply to this comment    2 May 2004, 17:33 GMT

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cloudofstrife  Account Info

Besides, it's not like the 84+ and 84+ silver are that much more revolutionary than the 83+ silver.

Reply to this comment    2 May 2004, 20:26 GMT


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archnaid Account Info

And, if you have a V200, why do you want an 84+/SE anyway?

Reply to this comment    2 May 2004, 22:55 GMT

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Nick_S  Account Info

maybe so he can have all the best z80 only ames and 68k only games

Reply to this comment    3 May 2004, 02:17 GMT


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BlackThunder  Account Info
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The best 68k games are, sadly, for TI-89 only. It's not fair!

Reply to this comment    10 May 2004, 01:56 GMT


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CajunLuke Account Info

Because it's the latest and best calc, that's why. I wouldn't want an 89Ti because of the itty-bitty screen and the obfuscated keys. You shouldn't need four modifier keys. 3 max.

Reply to this comment    3 May 2004, 17:35 GMT

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no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Why three? What's wrong with four? Two are just for text, anyway.

And you won't be able to use your v200 on an AP Exam or the SAT. That's why the TI-89's better. Besides, it fits in your pocket.

Reply to this comment    3 May 2004, 20:47 GMT

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The Muffin Man Account Info
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Last time I checked, the V200 fitted in my pocket and yes I was wearing school pants.
Z80 calcs generally are easier to use for quick and simple mathematical problems. If you need more answers from your calc then an 89TI would be good (does it have the alphabet mapped out like the 83+'s?).
The V200 is just a pretty version of the 92+ with more memory and speed and a few more mathematical features.

Reply to this comment    4 May 2004, 06:53 GMT

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Nick Ness  Account Info

a v200 fits in a pocket, too

Reply to this comment    4 May 2004, 14:31 GMT


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CajunLuke Account Info

My v200 fits in my pocket.
I got a 610 in Math on the SAT with an 83+ and screwing up on the consructed response.

Reply to this comment    4 May 2004, 18:55 GMT


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darkhydra21 Account Info

610? Heck, I got a 740 with my trusty 83+...well, I did guess on two of the constructed response questions...I guessed "12" and "6"...not that it really matters.

Reply to this comment    6 May 2004, 01:57 GMT

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darkhydra21 Account Info

Itty bitty screen? Well, it;s small compared to the V200 or the 92 or whatever, but the screen of the 89Ti is still larger than the 83/84 and any variations of those.

Reply to this comment    3 May 2004, 22:59 GMT


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CajunLuke Account Info

It feels itty-bitty after using my v200. And (call me crazy) it really does feel smaller than my 83+'s screen. Must be the smaller text.

Reply to this comment    8 May 2004, 21:10 GMT


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Jeremiah Walgren  Account Info
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Best? Excuse me?

Reply to this comment    4 May 2004, 03:43 GMT


Re: Re: Re: More TI-84 Plus News
CajunLuke Account Info

In case anyone was wondering, I have a 83+.

Reply to this comment    5 May 2004, 20:39 GMT

Re: More TI-84 Plus News
W Hibdon  Account Info
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Okay, I know that this is slightly off topic, but it is about new calcs from TI.

Why am I seeing all these games updated saying, "Compatable with the 89TI"? What needs to be changed? What is so differend about this third version of hardware for the 89 that warrents a rewrite of code? I am so confused!

-W-

Reply to this comment    2 May 2004, 17:42 GMT

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Geek_Productions Account Info
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I would <i>presume</i> this is to assure people that software is backwards compatable.

Reply to this comment    2 May 2004, 17:55 GMT


Re: Re: Re: More TI-84 Plus News
mike White Account Info
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tryed to HTML it i tryed once it doesn't work lol

Reply to this comment    2 May 2004, 22:52 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: More TI-84 Plus News
ti_guy  Account Info

This message board could be a lot better. If they were to redo it, I wish they would include:
-Some html tags (color, font)
-Edit/Delete comments
-Counts of how many comments all the users have made
-Smilies :)

Reply to this comment    2 May 2004, 23:54 GMT

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Memwaster  Account Info

-Some html tags (color, font)

yes, but no pictures or font sizes...they will be abused

-Edit/Delete comments

It this really nessesary. I hate replying to something and finding out it's been edited, thus making your reply out of context

-Counts of how many comments all the users have made

No thanks... I don't like post-whores

-Smilies :)

Isn't :-) enough?

Reply to this comment    3 May 2004, 00:57 GMT

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ti_guy  Account Info

Well, I can understand the post whore part, but the rest I think still should exist. Some smilies would make the forum more visually appealing, I didn't say pictures or fonts, and sometimes one can accidently double post or make spelng mstaks.

Reply to this comment    3 May 2004, 01:23 GMT


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anykey Account Info
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<font color="#FF0000">Font colors are good.</font><br>
But they have to have some sort of hex color chart for reference (see link).

Reply to this comment    3 May 2004, 02:08 GMT

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The Muffin Man Account Info
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Yay, you've all just managed to flame and post whore your way down here to this message... jumping back on topic:
I'd prefer the 89T over the 84+SE at the moment because it can just do a lot more things and I doubt that the 84's can enter commands by typing them but who knows...?
People are probably updating their programs saying "Compatible with the new 89T" to promote the program, I doubt any program changes were actually made. On another topic, the good programs haven't been updated for the 89T...oh, wait - they don't need promoting (sarcasm)

Reply to this comment    3 May 2004, 07:17 GMT


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Patrick Davidson  Account Info
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I recently updated some programs which are now noted as compatible, and it is absolutely not true that there are no changes. I only uploaded them marked as such after making specific and necessary changes to them, and getting the only known TI community member with a Titanium to test them.

As for the programs not identified as Titanium compatible, they will probably fail if anyone tries to run them on a Titanium without patching. For example, any program using the TI-GCC library to do grayscale has no chance of working if built by a version of TI-GCC older than 0.95 beta 6 (released March 14 of this year). That includes a whole lot of programs.

Reply to this comment    3 May 2004, 08:44 GMT

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The Muffin Man Account Info
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Looks like third party software isn't all it's cracked up to be.

Reply to this comment    3 May 2004, 09:40 GMT


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W Hibdon  Account Info
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Who has an 89ti? How did they happen across this? Now, I am really confused. Way to go Pat.

-W-

Reply to this comment    3 May 2004, 16:45 GMT


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Patrick Davidson  Account Info
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Bhuvanesh Bhatt, apparently selected by TI to test the new calculator.

Reply to this comment    3 May 2004, 21:36 GMT

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darkhydra21 Account Info

Wow...I wish I had one of those babies...my friends would all be soo jealous...

Reply to this comment    3 May 2004, 23:02 GMT


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W Hibdon  Account Info
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Lucky, lucky, lucky (I could go on for hours saying "lucky") man. Ah, to be him.

-W-

Reply to this comment    4 May 2004, 02:09 GMT

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mike White Account Info
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for my html site (geocities) the word "white" or "red" work. i don't know if they work on this server becasue i don't know how the internet works very well.

Reply to this comment    4 May 2004, 00:33 GMT


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anykey Account Info
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I prefer hex codes.

Reply to this comment    6 May 2004, 12:20 GMT


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Matt M Account Info

Actually, the <b>DO NOT</b> <i>HAVE</i> to be in hex or whatever it is code, I usually use generic words like...

Black
Yellow
Blue
Green
Teal
Cyan
White
Gray
Brown

...etc., although I recommend testing them first in a notepad (or other basic text program) file as so:

<html>
<font color="red">I am typing in Red.</font>
</html>

You get the point. If you still don't get it, paste what I typed above into a text program and save the file where you will find it with the name "test.htm" and then open it from the folder or in Internet Explorer, AOL, etc. from the File > Open menu.

Reply to this comment    5 May 2004, 15:42 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: More TI-84 Plus News
The Muffin Man Account Info
(Web Page)

FYI: HTML doesn't work here.
Examples *not intended to be parsed*:
Red:
<font color=#FF0000> hex </font>
<font color="000,255,255"> rgb </font>
<font color=red> text </font>
White:
<font color=#FFFFFF> hex </font>
<font color="255,255,255"> rgb </font>
<font color=white> text </font>

Generally typing in a color value by "text" will work in most browsers, the next best thing is using hex (white:#FFFFFF, to ,black:#000000; etc) or by just making a picture. =P
*not that this has all THAT much to do with calculators except that it's directed to a calc site. Hopefully that would answer any further questions on HTML-color here =P

Reply to this comment    6 May 2004, 11:45 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: More TI-84 Plus News
Lewk Of Serthic Account Info

Wow! Thanks, I'll be a webmaster in no time! :)

Reply to this comment    7 May 2004, 23:14 GMT


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Lewk Of Serthic Account Info

NO colors
NO font size
and no matter what you do, NO ANIMATED SMILIES

They are distracting, not to mention juvinile (besides, they remind me of AOL, which I hate with all my heart)

Reply to this comment    7 May 2004, 01:20 GMT


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W Hibdon  Account Info
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I think I love you.

-W-

Reply to this comment    7 May 2004, 22:15 GMT


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Lewk Of Serthic Account Info

I'll add you to my list of people who hate AOL. It's now to big to be opened with Notepad. j/k

Reply to this comment    7 May 2004, 23:20 GMT

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Jeremiah Walgren  Account Info
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It's fine the way it is. It suits the purpose it was intended for, discussion.

Reply to this comment    3 May 2004, 03:55 GMT

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Eugene Talagrand Account Info
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Actually, one thing I'd ike to see is the post metadata tied to the account preferences. If you change email or website, or change your posting preferences, these do not get updated for old comments.

Reply to this comment    3 May 2004, 07:22 GMT


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Roger Que  Account Info
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That's because the discussion thread pages aren't dynamic, but rather static HTML updated by a CGI script after every new post.

Reply to this comment    5 May 2004, 00:25 GMT

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Timm Bogner  Account Info

I agree, the fact that there are no smileys or colors make the forum: a) easier to read; b) more simplistic; and c) have a very 'clean' appearence.
I think that graphical smileys make the forum seem juvenile. (much like my atrocious spelling)
-TB

Reply to this comment    3 May 2004, 16:08 GMT


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CajunLuke Account Info

Nothing was spelled wrong in the previous message.

Reply to this comment    3 May 2004, 17:36 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: More TI-84 Plus News
Timm Bogner  Account Info

I was refering to my spelling in general.

Reply to this comment    3 May 2004, 21:46 GMT


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Lewk Of Serthic Account Info

Rock on

Reply to this comment    7 May 2004, 23:21 GMT

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Lewk Of Serthic Account Info

I say death to smilelys

>>--:(--> (Shot with arrow)

Reply to this comment    6 May 2004, 11:04 GMT


/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
anykey Account Info
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:^(

Reply to this comment    6 May 2004, 12:22 GMT


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Lewk Of Serthic Account Info

Text smilelys are like :P are ok but the animated things are annoying and dumb.

Reply to this comment    7 May 2004, 01:17 GMT


Re: Re: /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
BlackThunder  Account Info
(Web Page)

Text smilies also represent what we really feel. That's why I use smilies like ^_^ so they don't get parsed into animated pictures.

Reply to this comment    10 May 2004, 02:07 GMT

<a>
nicklaszlo Account Info
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Please don't forget the <a> link tag.

Reply to this comment    6 May 2004, 11:10 GMT


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The Muffin Man Account Info
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"-Some html tags (color, font)"
>This would make the overall look of the replies crap, eg: multicolored letters on white where there's a perfectly fine black to work with. Font's would cause some incompatibility problems.
"-Edit/Delete comments"
>That's what the administrators do if the message is regarded as offensive (FYI: It's illegal to send something regarded as offensive in Australia via any means of telecommunications.) If you send a well typed message then you shouldn't need to edit/delete it. *PROOF READ IT*
"-Counts of how many comments all the users have made"
>No, just no. This would start "forum whoring" and this is a news item NOT A FORUM.
"-Smilies :)"
>The load time for thousands of smilies on a page can actually take a while on a 56K modem...

Reply to this comment    7 May 2004, 07:09 GMT

It doesn't work
angelboy Account Info
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Quote from TIGCC board (see link):

- The ROM base is at 0x800000 (or higher) so you can't calculate it as (*0xc8 )&0x600000, but rather should and it with 0xe00000.
- Writing over 0x40064 and the like to hit interrupt vectors no longer works. I hope you can still write them directly (at 0x64) if you set 0x600001 to allow writing in low memory.
- Due to the above mentioned lack of ghosted memory (and perhaps other things as well) breaking the execution protection is harder now. However this shouldn't be a problem if the program is under 24K (or 64K as it may be now?).

Reply to this comment    2 May 2004, 18:16 GMT


Re: Re: More TI-84 Plus News
Patrick Davidson  Account Info
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Calling it a "rewrite" is cerainly an overstatement. I'm the one who uploaded 2 updated programs, and in that case onle *one* character in the thousands of lines of course code needed to be changed (6 to e). As small as the changes are, they're still necessary (though I believe that without them, the programs will simply show up in black and white and run at 2/3 speed since it is assumed to be an HW2 calculator).

Any TI-GCC program compiled with a version earlier than 0.95 beta 6 will have compatibility problems if it uses TI-GCC's library touines to check the hardware version and/or set interrupts. This includes using grayscale, which does both. For most C programs it will probably be enough to simply recompile the program with the new version of TI-GCC.

Reply to this comment    2 May 2004, 19:24 GMT

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W Hibdon  Account Info
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Thanks for the clearification. And, yes it was your updates that was the straw that broke the camel's back for me, at least in the confusion department.

I did not know that there would be such a simple fix to the problem that I knew nothing about.

-W-

Reply to this comment    3 May 2004, 02:15 GMT


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BlackThunder  Account Info
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0.95 beta 6? Nooooo.... I'm still using beta 5!

Reply to this comment    10 May 2004, 02:10 GMT

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