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Command Post Plus Released
Posted by Michael on 29 December 2003, 16:38 GMT

[Command Post Plus]Greg Dietsche of Detached Solutions has released an update to his original 89/92+/V200 app, Command Post. Command Post Plus is designed to assist developers with creating bug-free applications for the 68k calculators. On top of the original features such as leak watching and the hex editor, there is a link port logger, disassembler, crash detection system, TI-BASIC extensions, and more. This app is clearly not intended for the average user but rather the advanced programmer, so be careful before hex editing your memory.

 


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Re: Command Post Plus Released
ti_is_good_++  Account Info

The link port log and disassembly functions will come in handy, certainly.

     29 December 2003, 22:28 GMT

Re: Command Post Plus Released
angelboy Account Info
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Hmm, has the crash protection been updated at all? I've tried to use it in the past (and still do), but I usually rely on kernO to keep the calculator from crashing. Anyway, this is a very nice app. Good job!!

     30 December 2003, 23:39 GMT


Re: Re: Command Post Plus Released
nyall Account Info
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Why does the crash protection need updating?

     31 December 2003, 00:28 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Command Post Plus Released
angelboy Account Info
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I've not been able to get it to keep my calc from crashing.

     31 December 2003, 00:48 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Plus Released
nyall Account Info
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can you be more specific?

-Samuel

     31 December 2003, 00:59 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Plus Released
angelboy Account Info
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Never mind, I read more about it at DetachedSolutions's website, and he did update it.
Basic things such as address errors and protected memory violations would not be caught by Command Post, but KerNO would catch them.

     31 December 2003, 01:01 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Plus Released
dietsche Account Info
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Command Post *DOES* catch address errors. It has never caught protected memory address violations because the AMS does this already.

If you have KerNO installed, then KerNO overrides the Command Post crash protection features... the same way PreOS, or Universal OS would.

The crash protection was reworked; no features were dropped, but I did add some features like being able to jump to the address that caused the crash so that you can see the ASM code that caused the crash. For the full scoop, check this url (remove the spaces): http://www.detachedsolutions.com /cmdpost/crash_guard.htm

     31 December 2003, 02:44 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Command Post Plus Released
W Hibdon  Account Info

well, seeing that he has to RELY on KerNO ove Command Post, suggests that the Command Post's crash protect is, well, sub-par, in his mind, thus it needs to be updated. I have never used it. KerNO is good, but I have all the protection I need from PreOS.

-What is up with these programs having the first and last two letters caps? I am W-

     31 December 2003, 00:50 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Plus Released
nyall Account Info
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well duh, thats what I guesed but wanted to hear specifics.


-Samuel

     31 December 2003, 01:01 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Plus Released
W Hibdon  Account Info

Well, that is what I get for not refreshing my page before I make a post.

-W_

     31 December 2003, 01:45 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Plus Released
TrumpetMan258  Account Info

Hey, you made a mistake with your signature! That's the first time i've ever seen you make a mistake.

-TrumpetMan

     31 December 2003, 15:13 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Plus Released
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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He did it just up there, also. Doesn't really matter... he just held the shift key a bit too long.

     31 December 2003, 17:37 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Plus Released
W Hibdon  Account Info

Yeah, it iwas late, and I said "screw it" after I hit the tab key, so i left it. Then there was that one time that I accidentally signed it "-E-".

-W-

     31 December 2003, 20:55 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Plus Released
nyall Account Info
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Actually I was being snoty. Obviously the guy percieved some difference between the crash support (real or imaginary) I had no need to be told that.


Respectfully Rude:
-Samuel

     31 December 2003, 21:08 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Plus Released
W Hibdon  Account Info

Thank you Samuel. However, your rudeness was justified, for you precieved my commment as rude. I did not know you were looking for specific, I thought you were being funny, with your question, so I responded in a "duh" way.

-My , I am W-

     31 December 2003, 22:16 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Plus Released
W Hibdon  Account Info

Thank you Samuel. However, your rudeness was justified, for you precieved my commment as rude. I did not know you were looking for specific, I thought you were being funny, with your question, so I responded in a "duh" way.

-My apologies, I am W-

     31 December 2003, 22:16 GMT

Re: Command Post Plus Released
Michael McElroy Account Info
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This is REALLY starting to get on my nerves. Every single post I made on this thread was deleted - even the ones that were completely on topic.

Am I the only one that remembers that, whenever a post was deleted, the staff used to leave a message behind stating that it violated the posting policies? Why doesn't this happen anymore? The only explanation I can think of is that I'm being censored because someone doesn't like what I'm saying. Well, guess what: that's not what the rules say you're supposed to do. Taking out your own little personal vendetta on me by deleting everything I say is childish and asinine.

     31 December 2003, 14:15 GMT

Re: Re: Command Post Plus Released
Kevin Kofler Account Info
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The message appears only if there are replies which need a context. If a whole thread or branch of a thread is deleted, there is no such message, and there never was one.

     31 December 2003, 14:28 GMT

Re: Re: Command Post Plus Released
TrumpetMan258  Account Info

Yes, I remember that message (back in the day, when they used to use it). Like I said before, before my comment was deleted, I haven't seen that message in a long time.

-TrumpetMan

     31 December 2003, 15:20 GMT

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burntfuse  Account Info

I definitely agree. A while ago, many of my comments were deleted too, and when I complained, those comments were deleted! >:O In the first one, I was just helping someone else with site navigation. I've also seen many comments by other people that were deleted when they shouldn't have been. As you said, if they have to delete comments, they should at least leave behind a "[This comment was removed by a news editor]", and not remove all the "innocent" replies to it. Otherwise, it's like something out of the book "1984"-anything which isn't liked by the "government" is removed without a trace. We need the news editor to just leave EVERYTHING.

     31 December 2003, 17:02 GMT

You're posting **** here...
Lionel Debroux Account Info
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Well, if I was an admin/moderator, I'd remove/modify your post, Lord NightRose... You can read again the guidelines to see you're violating several of those (yes, I know, my post is not very constructive either).

An admin/moderator can dislike someone with good reasons, but not moderate or ban every single post coming from the persons he/she doesn't like, if the post is not perfectly in the guidelines (if that was always like that, many boards would have less obstacles).

Being moderated often is not a proof per se that an admin/moderator is unfair (it can be, and often is, the poster who posts incorrect things). A admin/moderator who moderates unfairly or stupidly does not really deserve his/her powers (that's why I dropped admin powers on my board, I moderated in a stupid way twice in several days).

     31 December 2003, 18:04 GMT

Re: Re: Command Post Plus Released
Michael Vincent  Account Info
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1. I do not delete all of your posts, only the ones that violate the guidelines. This one I'm replying to does. If you have a problem, then e-mail me. Never have you ever actually contacted me to ask why I'm deleting so many of your posts.

Instead, you just complain here so you can incite people to your perceived injustices. Here, do a google search for: "michael mcelroy" site:ticalc.org

I see 10 pages worth of news items that your posts are on, and that's not even including the ones before you changed your shown name from lord_nightrose.

2. It seems you are bent on attacking me. I refer viewers to the URL for this post. Now *who* is childish and asinine? Would you care to explain why you felt it necessary to download a copy of my staff photo and do that? I'm waiting...

3. That "[This message has..." was to block posts without deleting the ones underneath. It is used when there is legitimate discussion that should be kept underneath an off-topic post. This hasn't been occuring recently, so it hasn't been used.

Last, I would like to reiterate: If you do not like the policies here, which the staff has enforced for a long time (You have no idea how much moderation Nick D. did), then LEAVE. You aren't obligated in life to post on this site. Either shut up, or leave. I'm sorry that I have to be so blunt about it, but you are the one with the problem.

     31 December 2003, 19:59 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Command Post Plus Released
Joey Gannon  Account Info
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I have to agree with Michael Vincent on this one. I have nothing against lord_nightrose (he was even in my infamous Lego movie), but attacking our mods for following the rules is absolutely uncalled for.

"Don't insult or flame other people in your comments. Keep such sentiments to private email, or better yet, avoid them completely."

     31 December 2003, 20:09 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Command Post Plus Released
ti_is_good_++  Account Info

While you're at it, delete all those "Eat at Joes [sic]" posts from the Miscellaneous Program Ideas section.

     31 December 2003, 21:01 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Command Post Plus Released
W Hibdon  Account Info

Boy, oh boy, oh boy, does this take me back. And not that far either. It is like when RCT ParRo ThE aD was getting all flustered. Only he was just doing it to screw with MV.

-Ooh, ooh, a [badly drawn] cigerette, how hurtful. I am W-

     31 December 2003, 21:06 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Plus Released
Michael McElroy Account Info
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Wow, someone with a sense of humor! Amazing!

Question: If I did that to you, would you be offended, or would you just laugh at it?

Methinks MV needs to not take stuff like that so seriously.

     31 December 2003, 21:11 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Plus Released
W Hibdon  Account Info

I would probally be to freaked out to laugh. I mean, of you found a picture of me out there, that would mean you were trying a little too hard, thus freaking me out.

-W-

     31 December 2003, 22:05 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Command Post Plus Released
Michael McElroy Account Info
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> 1. I do not delete all of your posts, only the ones that violate the guidelines.

Then why, in a thread about beta testing, did you delete every comment I made about how to become a Sony beta tester?

> 2. It seems you are bent on attacking me.

Well, you're in charge of the news boards, and as far as any of us know, you're the only one who deletes things.

As for the photograph - that's called "a joke". Besides, I downloaded that picture long before you were a staff member.

> 3. That "[This message has..." was to block posts without deleting the ones underneath. It is used when there is legitimate discussion that should be kept underneath an off-topic post. This hasn't been occuring recently, so it hasn't been used.

That is absolutely untrue. The entire thread following my comments about Sony beta testing was deleted.

> If you do not like the policies here, which the staff has enforced for a long time (You have no idea how much moderation Nick D. did), then LEAVE.

I *do* know how much moderation Nick D. did, and I noticed that he didn't pick on a specific person. Like you have been. Believe me, I have been keeping track of what comments have been deleted (through Google's cached copies of pages and whatnot), and for the past couple weeks, the ratio of my posts that were deleted, as compared to everyone else, was at least three to one.

You even deleted my on-topic post talking about how I had used Command Post in some of my programs. I'd really like an explanation for that one, seeing how it was on-topic, non-offensive, non-disruptive, etc.

> I'm sorry that I have to be so blunt about it, but you are the one with the problem.

Sorry, Mike, but when I come back here only a few hours after posting something on-topic, only to find that it has been deleted, the problem is obviously not on my end.

     31 December 2003, 21:09 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Plus Released
Michael Vincent  Account Info
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You don't seem to realize that a discussion about beta testing Sony products is not appropriate for a calculator board. It's fine if you want to do that, but go to a Sony beta testing forum to do so.

That's not a joke. You didn't ask permission to modify the picture. Modifying a picture so that someone (especially someone underage) is smoking a cigarette is just plain disgusting and hateful.

I don't remember all the posts that are on this board, but if I deleted a post, it was because it violated a guideline.

If your deletion ratio is 3 times as much as other people's, it doesn't mean that I'm singling you out. It means that you are three times as offtopic as other people.

And you still post here. The ticalc.org staff members will enforce the message posting guidelines. Since you have issues with them, perhaps you should find a different, uncensored calculator site to post on. Ti-news.com is quite free; try there.

     31 December 2003, 21:23 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Plus Released
Michael McElroy Account Info
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> Modifying a picture so that someone (especially someone underage) is smoking a cigarette is just plain disgusting and hateful.

No; it's called HUMOR. Ever been to Fark.com? I suggest you go there once in a while. Loosen up. Please. For your sake.

Oh, by the way: How does it make sense, if you feel it is more appropriate to discuss things through e-mail, that you replied to my by way of this board?

     1 January 2004, 18:22 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Plus Released
Michael Vincent  Account Info
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Because I'm still waiting for your e-mail.

It's not my responsibility to contact you, but the other way around.

     1 January 2004, 22:35 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Plus Released
ti_is_good_++  Account Info

Grammar mistake, Mr. Grammar Nazi!

It's 'me', not 'my!'

Stop.

     2 January 2004, 01:52 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Plus Released
Michael McElroy Account Info
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> If your deletion ratio is 3 times as much as other people's, it doesn't mean that I'm singling you out. It means that you are three times as offtopic as other people.

I will repeat myself.

A thread on Sony beta testing in a discussion on beta testing is perfectly on-topic. I also posted two comments in this news thread that were completely on-topic, discussing my use of Command Post in my programs and how I looked forward to using this new version, and both were deleted.

     1 January 2004, 18:24 GMT


Re: Re: Command Post Plus Released
Morgan Davies  Account Info
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>> Don't insult or flame other people in your comments. Keep such sentiments to private email, or better yet, avoid them completely.

>> Please be constructive and keep comment topics relevant to the article you are replying to.

>> Don't post asking why a comment was deleted; we deleted it because we felt it was in violation of these guidelines. If you need more of an explanation, please Contact Us.

>> Messages containing "first comment" boasts, requests for game ports, or criticisms of "newsworthiness" will generally be deleted.

==

These appear every time you click to reply to a post. Note the one that says to contact us if you need an explanation. I WILL ALWAYS REPLY TO AN E-MAIL, regardless!

I and every single staff member at ticalc.org would agree that we treat every community member with equality. Obviously you and Micahel seem to have a problem with each other, but I know that he would not purposefully remove all your posts just because you were the individual posting them. The staff would not allow such behavior.

I have said this before...MICHAEL IS NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO DELETES POSTS. Just because he is the News Editor does not mean that he is the only individual to reove them.

Alos regarding the discussion about the posts text being removed instead of deleted, this is generally the guideline to determine which option is used for that.

1. If a post violated the guidelines but has relevant infoprmation to the topic in some pf it's daughter posts then the text of the one post will be removed leaving the other posts in tact.

2. If a post violates the guidelines and all of it's daughter posts do as well, the post will be deleted and thus it's daughter posts will be as well.

     31 December 2003, 21:01 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Command Post Plus Released
Michael McElroy Account Info
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I contacted Magnus about this a few weeks ago, and he said he would investigate further. In the meantime, I feel that I have every right to complain if I feel that I am being censored.

     31 December 2003, 21:08 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Plus Released
Joey Gannon  Account Info
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You can complain, but I can guarantee from what I know from being on the inside that you are not being intentionally singled out. All five active staff members delete posts, so attacking Michael because you are bitter for unknown reasons is fruitless. If you want to troll, go to Slashdot. If you want to talk about calculators and leave our mods alone, stay here.

     1 January 2004, 20:47 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Plus Released
Neo_Coel  Account Info

Could you please stop this... I know this is off topic, but I think its needed. I dont reply often, but Ive been around ticalc for I think two years now, and Ive never seen anyone behave like this. Not the entire time, not when the mods had to start moderating very heavily, it was needed. Please keep this off of the message boards, if someone is specifying you out of us all Im sorry, but it doesnt belong here on a board for Command Post.

     2 January 2004, 06:27 GMT

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