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100000th News Post!
Posted by Michael on 24 December 2003, 18:31 GMT

This news article marks the 100,000th post in our news database. The actual number is less, because of deleted comments. Thank you to all the authors and users who have made us able to reach this milestone! As you know, Magnus has recently been working on improvements to our system, and we hope to have an even better news system in the future. What programs get to be featured in the one-tenth of a million news article, you ask?

XPak 1.0 and uView 1.0 have been released by Paul Froissart. XPak is a file compressor for the 89/92+/V200 that works like ZipLib, is almost as powerful as TTPack, and several times faster. uView is a companion text editor.

Basicbuilder by Martin Warmer is a Windows program to convert your BASIC programs into flash applications for the TI-83 Plus. This seems perfect for personal use, packaging games so that they can be run from flash and avoiding the pain of constantly ungrouping them. Please don't release a million number guessing game apps, however.

Oh, and right now - Merry Christmas to those of you in Australia.

 


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Re: 100000th News Post!
Seligstein Joel  Account Info
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Interesting programs. The zip thing looks nice, will have to check it out. Anyone writing similar for z80 series?

About the Flash App thing. I think its newsworthy to restate the fact that it should be for personal use only. We don't need 1 million copies of the BASIC programs to come out in Flash form. Sheesh, we'd have to make a separate directory to weed out the crap.

Which reminds me, I should upload GeoTI, I've had it for almost two years and not put it @ ticalc.org.

Anyway, good job guys!

     24 December 2003, 18:34 GMT

Re: Re: 100000th News Post!
Michael Vincent  Account Info
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Good point. I originally was going to write about me grimacing at the thought of this, and then I removed it. I put a little blurb back in.

The program though will not compile unless the percentage of wasted space is less than a certain number, ostensibly to prevent single 500 byte programs from being converted into 16 KB apps.

     24 December 2003, 18:41 GMT


Re: Re: Re: 100000th News Post!
Martin Warmer  Account Info

I tried to make it a little harder for basic programmers to abuse basicbuilder.

I require the original basic programs to be distributed as well, to stop people from using it to hide their basic code. I created a decompiler to enforce this rule.

It won't create an app if there is more than 3kb of space wasted. That's already 1.875% of the archive space on a ti83+.

If anybody thinks I should add some other feature to stop abuse just mail me.

     24 December 2003, 20:32 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: 100000th News Post!
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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It sounds like a good idea, but as for all the bad BASIC games being converted to APPs... Anyway, would it run faster? It seems like it would, since it's an APP. That would be a slight advantage.

     25 December 2003, 15:39 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 100000th News Post!
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Wait... never mind, it runs them from the RAM, right?

     25 December 2003, 15:45 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 100000th News Post!
Martin Warmer  Account Info

Yes, as you can see in the readme:
"You can start them from the app and they will be copied to ram, executed and deleted afterwards."

     26 December 2003, 09:35 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 100000th News Post!
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Yes, thank you, I had just read that in the readme a short while ago.

     26 December 2003, 14:50 GMT

Re: Re: 100000th News Post!
Morgan Davies  Account Info
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>> Sheesh, we'd have to make a separate directory to weed out the crap.

Actually there s already a directory for these programs/apps. It was made about a week ago at request of the author. Click the weblink or go here:
http://www.ticalc.org/pub/ 83plus/flash/ programs/basicbuilder/

We have yet to decide if they will continue to be included in stats.

     24 December 2003, 20:14 GMT


Re: Re: Re: 100000th News Post!
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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I guess that would depend on if they uploaded the regular BASIC version as well. You don't want them getting double credit for the programs...

     25 December 2003, 15:41 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: 100000th News Post!
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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I know this sounds like a pretty stupid idea... but if having the APP basic programs is a problem, why have a section for them at all? Then, BASIC programmers would just include the APP version of the program in along with the zip file, so everything is 1) easier to access, and 2) only counting for one program, instead of two.

That makes sense to me, but I'm sure there are plenty of good reasons against that. Go ahead and give your input.

     26 December 2003, 01:14 GMT


Horrible Pun
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Oh, wait, oh wait... if you do decide the keep the folder... call it "BASIC crAPP"! Hahaha! LOL, I am so lame. Sorry... had to share my cheesey sense of humor ;-)

     26 December 2003, 01:34 GMT

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burntfuse  Account Info

LOL!!! LOL!!!

     27 December 2003, 01:46 GMT


Re: Horrible Pun
KermMartian Account Info
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lol...I think that the basicbuilder folder shouldn't be part of the stats, that if the people want stats they have package the app with the original prog in the correct BASIC folder. -+=<My $0.02>=+-

     27 December 2003, 16:55 GMT


Re: Re: Horrible Pun
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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That's what I said... err... somewhere in here.

I'M BACK!!!!!! Did anybody miss me? I thought we'd have a new news article by the time I got back. Guess not. So, I didn't miss anything?

     28 December 2003, 22:49 GMT

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burntfuse  Account Info

There's zip86 for the (wow....guess what???? 86!!!!!), but it was unstable, so I started to write one myself, but lost interest/gave up. Maybe I should start again....

     25 December 2003, 01:48 GMT

Re: Re: 100000th News Post!
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!!!!!

Who got the 100000th post? Was it me? Was it? *excited* That would be so cool!

     25 December 2003, 15:35 GMT

Re: Re: Re: 100000th News Post!
jason_r_larue Account Info

And a Happy Hanukkah!

     25 December 2003, 16:03 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: 100000th News Post!
W Hibdon  Account Info

I thought it was "Ch"....

-W-

     26 December 2003, 22:18 GMT

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burntfuse  Account Info

Well, the beginning sound can't be represented with standard english letters, so usually either an "H" or a "Ch" is used instead.

     27 December 2003, 01:48 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 100000th News Post!
DWedit  Account Info
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It's either Chanukah, or Hanukkah. Note that the version that's spelled with a C has one k, rather than 2.

     28 December 2003, 18:59 GMT

Re: Re: Re: 100000th News Post!
angelboy Account Info
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I don't know who got the 100000th post, but we should start posting a lot more to get 1000000!

     26 December 2003, 03:35 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: 100000th News Post!
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Well, I searched (I posted about this somewhere farther below), and I couldn't find it! I think the article itself is the 100000th post!

     26 December 2003, 14:51 GMT


Re: Re: Re: 100000th News Post!
Morgan Davies  Account Info
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Aaah, faling to read the article again :-(

"This news article marks the 100,000th post in our news database."

What is even more sad is that it was the first line of the article. :-)

     26 December 2003, 17:02 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: 100000th News Post!
Magnus Hagander  Account Info
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Note to self: Inform other news posters of the non-punctuation idea to make people read the articles.

     27 December 2003, 11:10 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 100000th News Post!
KermMartian Account Info
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The who did what now?

     27 December 2003, 17:08 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 100000th News Post!
W Hibdon  Account Info

He pondered somewhere on this page about not using punctuation in the articles to get those who only read the first sentence to not stop at the first peroid because there would be no punctuation.

-W-

     27 December 2003, 17:48 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 100000th News Post!
Morgan Davies  Account Info
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That was in the previous article.

     28 December 2003, 09:21 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: 100000th News Post!
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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No, I just didn't understand what it meant. I thought they were writing this because somebody else got the 100,000th post. Furthermore, I didn't know that the articles counted as posts, themselves. But now it all makes sense. :)

     28 December 2003, 22:50 GMT


Re: Re: 100000th News Post!
KermMartian Account Info
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Wow, that's incredible about 100K comments! Ay first I thought you meant 100K articles, but then I realized you meant comments...

That BASIC-->App thing is cool, but as others have noted, now the archives will be flooded with BASIc apps. Oh well.

Merry belated Christmas!

     27 December 2003, 16:49 GMT


Re: Re: Re: 100000th News Post!
BlackThunder  Account Info
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Well, actually, it is 100K articles.

     7 January 2004, 22:02 GMT

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