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TI-83 Plus SDK Released
Posted by Nathan on 30 October 1999, 07:17 GMT

Texas Instruments released the TI-83 Plus Software Development Kit. According to the FAQ, this allows software developers to program in Zilog Z80 assembly code. Listing technical specifications and user interface guidelines--as well as offering a "software simulator/debugger"--the SDK will allow programmers to create tight programs that are optimized and integrated with the TI-OS (presently, programmers have used incomplete, hacked TI-83 and TI-83 Plus information for programming). Available only in English, this free SDK will soon be followed by both educational and professional versions, which will allow programmers to write Flash applications which execute directly from the Flash ROM.

 


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Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
Erich Oelschlegel  Account Info
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First comment! I've always wanted to do that. :)

~ferich

     30 October 1999, 07:24 GMT

WHAT IS SO GREAT ABOUT FLASH APPLICATONS?
Roberto  Account Info
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Somebody please tell me, why feel so bothered by that TI will tell which apps can be Flash Apps? WHAT ARE WE MISSING OUT?

     2 November 1999, 00:33 GMT

Re: WHAT IS SO GREAT ABOUT FLASH APPLICATONS?
Erich Oelschlegel  Account Info
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FlashApps have the ability to be integrated into the system, with common variables used interchangeably between the OS and the FlashApps. However, since most of the programming in ASM is done to produce games (and the occasional periodic table), I doubt there will be much use of the professional version among programmers. If anything, the 83+ SDK enables Z80 programmers to learn more about the system, rather than develop games on it. Also, do you really think that TI is going to "digitally sign" any game so it can be a FlashApp? That question wasn't specifically to you, but to most of the other people on this board. That's the only advantage to using FlashApps over a regular ASM program, the ability to share common variables and integration into the system.

~ferich

     2 November 1999, 14:48 GMT


Re: WHAT IS SO GREAT ABOUT FLASH APPLICATONS?
Myen

...
The ability to be 1) launched from the "APPS" button and 2) harder for your teachers to erase? :)

     3 November 1999, 03:14 GMT


Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
jdtennis83

Why are there so many comments to this? It's not that interesting. What will be interesting is the flash apps that are later released.

     1 December 1999, 23:41 GMT

Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
Andrew Magness  Account Info
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This is great!! Now they can do the 68k calcs!!!

     30 October 1999, 07:32 GMT

Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
yoshii hiro  Account Info

#3, third times the charm. ticalc is good, ti-89 is good, mac is good.

     30 October 1999, 07:36 GMT

Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
Erich Oelschlegel  Account Info
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I don't think the charm will work on your "mac is good" statement... :)

     30 October 1999, 07:43 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
Etec Account Info
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<opposite_of_what_you_ment>Yea it's already good. I hope your not flaming mac fans. </opposite_of_what_you_ment>

     30 October 1999, 21:31 GMT


Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
Brettman  Account Info

yes mac is very good.

     30 October 1999, 15:30 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
Patrick Wilson  Account Info
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MacOS < Windows 95
Windows 95 <= Windows98
Windows < Linux

Therefore Linux rules and MacOS is just "OK"

     30 October 1999, 18:32 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
DWedit  Account Info
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Linux<MS DOS
MS DOS<Windoze 98
Windoze 98<Windows NT
Windows NT<Linux
Linux<MS DOS

It's a vicious circle...

     30 October 1999, 19:11 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
Etec Account Info
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Actually there is an end
(everything you mentioned) < mac
well maby mac<linux.
The mac is better than everything except linux.

P.S. Does anyone know how to get the linux windows emulator to work.

     30 October 1999, 21:34 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
raw33 Account Info

mac<TI-99
TI-99<TI-81
TI-81<everything but mac & ti-99

     31 October 1999, 16:05 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
Etec Account Info
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Shut up, your stupidity makes me sick.

     31 October 1999, 22:13 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
David Lee Account Info

There's TI-99?????

     4 November 1999, 16:35 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
E-Man  Account Info

Ahem,
FreeBSD>everything

     9 November 1999, 12:27 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
Etec Account Info
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No, Mac is better than any of microsofts systems.

     30 October 1999, 21:35 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
The_Professor  Account Info

It depends on your perspective. If you want all the latest games, then Windows 95/98se are the best. Otherwise Linux is probably the best (I've only used Win 95), as it has support from some game developers (like ID software)

     30 October 1999, 21:38 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
Samir Ribic  Account Info
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Except fact that Linux will destroy your floppy if you forgot to unmount it!

     31 October 1999, 08:46 GMT


Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
Nathan Haines  Account Info
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Yeah, I'm really waiting for that! Well, that will come after AMS 2.0, which will completely redesign the current TI-OS to make programming for it much efficient. But AMS 2.0 will come out in "Fall 1999" (which means they have until 21 December 1999), and the SDK for the TI-89 will be in "early 2000," which means they have until July. ;)

     30 October 1999, 07:41 GMT

Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
Erich Oelschlegel  Account Info
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You're a pessimist, aren't you... :)

So am I.

~ferich
"Blessed are the pessimists, for they hath made backups."

     30 October 1999, 07:47 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
Andrew Magness  Account Info
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Nah... they'll bump the 68k SDK back to like next december...

     30 October 1999, 07:53 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
Bryan Rabeler  Account Info
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Maybe we have something in common. :)

     30 October 1999, 08:04 GMT


Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
yoshii hiro  Account Info

When I e-mailed ti about the v.2.00 release date, they said LATE NOVEMBER. yeah, only one more month.
by the way, MAC is GOOD. twice as fast as the PC for the same Mhz.

     30 October 1999, 08:34 GMT

Mac is good?!
barich Account Info

Ummm, no.

     30 October 1999, 15:15 GMT


Re: Mac is good?!
Etec Account Info
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Ummm, yes. Unless you only use school macs, even G3's. Schools clog the memory up which slows it down.

     30 October 1999, 21:37 GMT


Re: Re: Mac is good?!
beasty  Account Info
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Macs suck ass. Macs are pathetic and will soon be extinct. The only reason that they may be even SLIGHTLY of value is becaue they come in orange. My favorite color.


love ya,
beasty

P.S. Linux is better then win 98

     31 October 1999, 22:44 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Mac is good?!
Etec Account Info
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SHUTUP BEASTY, YOUVE FLAMED ENOUGH PEOPLE INCLUDING TI PROGRAMERS, SHUT THE FUCK UP.

     31 October 1999, 23:17 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Mac is good?!
Nikku-kun Account Info

I almost agree with you about Macs being extinct soon ... except, get a graphite-colored one, black is a much cooler shade. :)

--Nik

     2 November 1999, 02:59 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Mac is good?!
pikachu2  Account Info

The mac is growing actually.

     2 November 1999, 03:09 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
Brettman  Account Info

yes that is very true. because of the powerpc architecture.

     30 October 1999, 15:32 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
T0ad111  Account Info
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Watch my Athlon kick the s**t out of your PowerPC

     30 October 1999, 16:36 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
Erich Oelschlegel  Account Info
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Actually, I'd go with the new AMD chips. They kick Intel's butt in any case. I think I saw a news article on Slashdot about this a little while ago (maybe a week).

~ferich

     30 October 1999, 17:00 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
Etec Account Info
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True AMD have been proven to be better but I still don't trust them with their compatability with pentium required programs.

     30 October 1999, 21:40 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
barich Account Info
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The new AMD chip IS the Athlon.

     30 October 1999, 21:43 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
Erich Oelschlegel  Account Info
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My bad. I forgot whose processor was whose. I mixed up the Athlon and whatever Intel was calling its processor. Never mind, call me stupid.

~ferich

     31 October 1999, 01:00 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
Etec Account Info
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You have gotten me so upset with your newer comments I would like to say ...
You are stupid.

     3 November 1999, 00:53 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
Etec Account Info
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Watch my G4 and or Compaq kick th **** out of your athlon

     30 October 1999, 21:39 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
barich Account Info
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Watch my refrigerated 1 Ghz Athlon machine kick the **** out of all your computers combined.

     30 October 1999, 21:49 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
Etec Account Info
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Yea, your stupid if you put your computer in your refrigerator, even if it can fit. Yea it might be that fast but how about other fetures like
ram
hard drive speed
DVD-ROM, CD-ROM
Other drives
System (linux, windows, etc.)
Modem speed
USB
Fire Wire (Apples term)
Graphics Addapter,Graphics Accellerator,AGP
Monitor type and size
Type of internet connection
Mouse (PS2 or Serial).
3d sound, sterio, mono, Dolby digital, JBL 3d virtual theater
Type of printer port,
Cache
System bus
Upgradability.
The list can go on for about 10 more pages if I open my computer up.
I would like to say can you beat that.
I would also like to say I love braging about my computers features.
Oh yea one last thing Automaticly updates it's self.

     30 October 1999, 22:05 GMT

Horribly offended
raw33 Account Info

I am horribly offended by your apostrophe use - "it's self"! It's self should be itself. Going to do something meaningful...

     31 October 1999, 01:05 GMT


Re: Horribly offended
Etec Account Info
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good for you

     31 October 1999, 02:06 GMT

Uh, no...
Dan_the_Tuba_Man  Account Info

AMD sells computers with their OWN liquid nitrogen refrigeration system built in. It will cool a chip down to -40 degrees boosting the speed by 33%. So, in short his 1Ghx computer will kill your computer in any competition.

     31 October 1999, 02:11 GMT

Re: Uh, no...
Etec Account Info
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nope not really. My computer actually has two Pentium processers inside, one for the base and one that Was a hack. The base was also over clocked and I have a cooling system that I put on which works like a car engine. That computer would not beat mine in any competition. Only in speed and processing power. Try a competion in how fast it can copy your whole system to another hard drive. Mine would beat you if you have less than 1GB of ram, and a slower hard drive then me. I hate AMD computers anyway. Intel is still more compatable. Lets see how many features yours has. Why don't you go and try to make your computer survive geting draged by a truck driven by the Mac Addict team.

P.S. I'm a Mac/PC user so don't flame about how your mac would never beat yor computer.

     31 October 1999, 02:01 GMT

Re: Re: Uh, no...
raw33 Account Info

So basically you're saying that macs aren't computers? YAY! Someone who agrees with me!!!!! You said, "about how your mac would never beat yor computer," which implies that macs are not computers.

     31 October 1999, 14:17 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Uh, no...
Etec Account Info
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You idiot I have a mac COMPUTER and a PC. My PC is newer but my mac is better because of the operating system.

P.S. I won't make as many of these mistakes if people would stop getting me angry.

     31 October 1999, 22:16 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Uh, no...
KnightRT  Account Info

People wouldn't make you angry if you had a clue.

EVERYTHING you have said in regard to Macs, PC's, AMD chips, and Intel chips has been incorrect, with the exception of terminology.

Under different circumstances, I'd call you misinformed. But, in this case, I think "stupid" is a more appropriate term.

KnightRT

     1 November 1999, 23:17 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Uh, no...
Etec Account Info
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Shut up, I have a clue, people keep on making fun of another system just because they don't understand it. I understand Windows, Mac, and a little but of Linux. So you are the stupid one. You don't even know who I am, for all you know I could be Steve Jobs, though I'm not.

     2 November 1999, 00:30 GMT


Re: Re: Uh, no...
Erich Oelschlegel  Account Info
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Think about it: you have 2 Pentium II 450MHz processors. Together, they add up to 900 MHz. barich has a 1GHz AMD Athlon processor. 1 GHz = 1,000 MHz. Also note that the Athlon is a more advanced chip. You wouldn't say that a Pentium II and a P3 of the same MHz perform the same, would you? Neither would the PII perform the same against an Athlon of the same MHz (if they existed). So stop trying to sound superior and go read your Mac Addict subscription.

~ferich

     2 November 1999, 14:56 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Uh, no...
Etec Account Info
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Actually it is 400mhz not 450.

     3 November 1999, 00:45 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Uh, no...
Erich Oelschlegel  Account Info
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Ok, but my point still holds up. As for the extra comment that couldn't be mentioned in the post I am replying to about your typing accuracy, most of the comments I've seen from you don't have typos, they are simple words just plain spelled wrong, words like "upsessed," which is actually harder to type than the correct spelling of "obsessed." I know the Internet isn't a spelling contest, but as somebody mentioned recently (probably on the Newsboard Anarchy page), on the Internet, what you type is your only form of identification. If nobody knows you, everybody's image of you (from what you post) would be the dumb kid who knows JACK (must I mention that you also think Macs and Pokemon rule and StarWars sucks) and can't spell. Spelling errors don't make you look any smarter, they do the opposite.

~ferich

     4 November 1999, 01:01 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Uh, no...
Etec Account Info
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I think negativly of people who spell everything right all the time on the internet. From what I know, everyone in here has misspelled words in the past or on this board. Everyone in my school finds it disgusting that some people actually read the dictionary. I think I have now made my point.

     5 November 1999, 02:54 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Uh, no...
ProfPoke Account Info

i du agrie dat Pokemon rulez, butt i wood havta' unagrie wit da pot bout Macs rool cause dey sux. know koment on de StarWars pot. (And I do know that I misspelled every word in this reply, but that was just to annoy you!)

     11 November 1999, 01:27 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Uh, no...
Etec Account Info
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You know your a little late. You make this comment after I explain all of my stupid comments. I hope you know that making a positive comment wouldn't hurt.

Also I mispell so many words because I have bad typing accurcy. Try typing as fast as me if you can't already or if you can't already type faster. I will type slower for some of you who care so much about spelling.

     3 November 1999, 00:49 GMT


Re: Uh, no...
Etec Account Info
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thanks for the tecnical information. I have never seen an AMD Athlon at 1GHZ (1,000mhz) unless it was over clocked or something.

     3 November 1999, 00:51 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
barich Account Info
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Okay, you can buy bare-bones computers that have a small refrigerator built-in to the base. The cooling lines run to the processor and back allowing it to be overclocked to 1 GHz or faster.

256MB PC 133 SDRAM
Quantum FireBall UltraDMA 66
8X DVD-ROM
Zip, Castlewood ORB
Win98/Caldera OpenLinux 2.3/WinNT Triple Boot
56K Modem, soon to be G.Lite
2 USB ports
No IEEE 1394, but Apple invented it and I'd rather have Ultra Wide SCSI 2
Matrox Millennium G400 MAX 4X AGP
21 inch Sony F500
V.90 soon to be G.Lite
PS2 MS Intellieye
SB Live w/ Dolby 5.1
Umm - Parallel
256K onchip same speed cache
200 MHz
Can be upgraded to anything I want

And the Ultra Chip - AMD Athlon 650 overclocked to 1000 MHz

Beat that!!!!!!

     31 October 1999, 15:58 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
Etec Account Info
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okay
1GB sync ram
I have no Idea what that was
8x DVD-RAM thats right not ROM
ZIP, JAZ
Windows 95, 98, linux-mandrake 6.0, Windows 2000 beta.
56k modem v.90, cable modem ready, dsl modem.
4 USB ports
IEEE 1394, but Apple invented it so I like it best >>>of all ports.
ATI 3D Rage PRO
COMPAQ PRESARIO MV700 17" that looses but I just want >>>to tell you
PS2 COMPAQ Mouse
Sound all of the following
>>>JBL PRO SPEAKERS
>>>Aureal 3d interactive
>>>Dolby Digital
>>>JBL 3d Virtual Theature, oops thats video too.
IEEE 1284 Complient as well as a USB Printer
512kb L2 Pipeline birst cache
400mhz
Yea like you can upgrade it to a 22 centry computer.
Mine can have up to 5 extra cards, Surround Sound speakers, Ram already upgraded, As may hard drives as I want, Processer upgradable, 1 extra internal drive.

Beat that somebody. Ha Ha

My mac you know it's the best G3 you can get with 1GB of ram too.

oh yea I don't care about AMD Chips, I think they suck no matter how bad they beat the Pentium.

     31 October 1999, 22:35 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
barich Account Info
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Watch my Millennium G400 Max kick the crap out of your feeble Rage Pro!

     31 October 1999, 23:03 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
Etec Account Info
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Watch my bird virus cause your computer to crash, you have such little ram.

Freebee you probly got yours out of the dumster, scraped of the name crappy graphics and put that name. My ATI 3D Rage PRO can kick the crap out of you piece of shit at the sharpest graphics, fastest graphics, and the one that is made by my favorite graphics accellerator company, espically since they make accellerators for the mac.

     31 October 1999, 23:21 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
da86guy Account Info
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Beat this:
4GB RAM
57GB HDD
1.44 MB FLOPPY
VOODOO3 3000 3dfX AGP card
DVD RAM (or whatever it's called)
700 MHZ Pentium III, overclocked to 1100 MHZ
alot of multimedia options. (I gotta go now; my mom's mad at me for holding uagghhhh--

     5 November 1999, 03:22 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
Etec Account Info
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I can't belive that. I bet the 4GB of ram is a lie, 57GB HDD (unless you have more than one), and your pentium is a lie. I would not even belive a 1GHZ pentium (1000mhz). I bet your whole computer is a lie. Can anyone tell me if there is a such thing as a voodoo3 3000. Hey, he forgot about how much power his 1.1GHZ (1100mhz) pentium hogs. A processer like that must need about 10 fans and must hog a lot of power. all pentiums hog a lot of power at least in relation to others (AMD,G3,G4,etc.)

     5 November 1999, 23:13 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
Yeti  Account Info
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umm.. holy crap.

     31 October 1999, 22:39 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
Etec Account Info
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Oh sure say holly crap to his because of is gay AMD processer. Oh wait maby you ment his computer is holy crap.

     31 October 1999, 23:22 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
CompJosh  Account Info

Well i can't label all of MY features, but try this:

512Mb RAM
DUAL PIII 450
48x multi-lazer CD-ROM
12x12x40 CD-RW
2X 32Gb 10000 ms hard drives
Windows 2000 beta version
Windows 98 2nd edition
1Mb T1 Line (a really fast modem for you people who have no idea what this is)
6 USB ports
16 Mb Nvida Riva TNT2 video card
3X 16 Mb Vodoo II (Direct Draw, 3DFX) video cards
21' Hitachi Monitor
AOL
MSN
Serial port Microsoft IntelliMouse Pro
Parallel Printer Port
HP OfficeJet 1120
1.028Mb Cache
Automatic upgrade during idle time (takes about 30 min.)
Anything else I might be able to help you with?
Oh yeah, I also like to bran about my technological supiority.
This is actually funny because i am only 14 years old.

P.S. Look for my PimpWars game written specifically for the TI-83+!

P.S.S. If i forgot to add anything let me know!

     2 November 1999, 00:42 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
Etec Account Info
(Web Page)

1GB sync ram
8x DVD-RAM thats right not ROM
ZIP, JAZ
Windows 95 Plus, 98 upgraded to 2nd edition, linux-mandrake 6.0, Windows 2000 beta. Don't ask me why I need windows 95 when I have 98, I just got it from someone as a present.
56k modem v.90, cable modem ready, dsl modem.
4 USB ports
IEEE 1394, but Apple invented it so I like it best >>>of all ports.
ATI 3D Rage PRO
COMPAQ PRESARIO MV700 17" that looses but I just want >>>to tell you
AOL everyone knows what this is
Freei a copy off aol for free
Netzero another free internet service only not like aol
PS2 COMPAQ Mouse
Sound all of the following
>>>JBL PRO SPEAKERS
>>>Aureal 3d interactive
>>>Dolby Digital
>>>JBL 3d Virtual Theature, oops thats video too.
IEEE 1284 Complient as well as a USB Printer
HP Deskjet 722C kodak enhancements
512kb L2 Pipeline birst cache
400mhz
I know my computer basicly looses for the numbers and modems to yours but you have an abnormally loaded computer. Congradulatons. Also I think most people here know what a T1 connection is, but can't you only get that in offices.

P.S. Hey, I'm only 13

P.S.S. Automatic upgrade anytime, Compaqs upgrade service. as well as microsoft critical update even though it is just a notifier.

P.S.S.S. How many serial ports do you have, if you only have one you must have a hell of a time swaping and navigating your computer without a mouse. I know someone who has to do this.

     2 November 1999, 01:14 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
CompJosh  Account Info

not to be rude but i like my abnormally loaded computer. in fact, i am on it right now. it is great. oh, by the way, i have 6 serial ports as well. i only posted this because it is 12:14 am tuesday. i am bored. And, you know, i like to brag. i guess i should have that checked out... but you know, who has the best computer isn't really the issue. some people think i have a bad computer because the consider theirs to be better. that i wasted the 6.5 grand i spent on it. but i didn't spend that money so i could compare my computer to your's. i'm not trying to be rude i just think it is pointless to post 100 replies to a caculator progam article that has to do with who's computer is superior to who's. that is all i am trying to do. i mean, more than half of these replies are about who has the better computer. post it on a site that cares!

It's all about the Pentiums baby!!

     2 November 1999, 06:22 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
Etec Account Info
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I was complementing you about your computer, I like pentiums too. It seems more like people here prefer AMDs.

     3 November 1999, 00:44 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
DWedit  Account Info
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Power PC architeture, PAH! At my school, all the "PowerMacs" go so slow it starts to become funny. The phrase "Power Macintosh" has become a joke, of the oxymoronic type. Not to mention the idiot that beleives "Vitrual memory takes up too much hard drive space, so let's disable it." iMacs are also very fruity. Give me a REAL computer anyday!

     30 October 1999, 17:22 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
yoshii hiro  Account Info

The power macs at your school are 5-10 years old. use an IBM that old, and it will take six monthc. to start up. although the imac is fruity, it still runs very well and works great. Do not judge a mac by the fecal matter which is labeled "macintosh" and plaed at the students disposal.

     30 October 1999, 17:29 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
barich Account Info
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Not everyone's school has 5-10 year old Macs. My high school has new G4s, G3s, and iMacs. They also have Windows NT machines so people can actually do schoolwork. The Macs just look good and crash.

     30 October 1999, 21:44 GMT

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raw33 Account Info

FruitMacs stink!

     30 October 1999, 20:21 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
Etec Account Info
(Web Page)

IBM does not mean International Busness Company it means. The logo means I'm a bit** as* mother fu**er.

     30 October 1999, 21:44 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
raw33 Account Info

lol

     31 October 1999, 03:10 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
Etec Account Info
(Web Page)

Will someone tell me what lol means? Lots of laughs?

     31 October 1999, 22:36 GMT


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h4X0r  Account Info
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Laughing Out Loud. I hope you weren't being sarcastic.

     31 October 1999, 23:13 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
Erich Oelschlegel  Account Info
(Web Page)

It doesn't mean International Business Company, you idiot. Read the acronym. It's IBM not IBC. And if you don't know what lol means then you're stupid as hell, not to mention that you think Macs are the best thing since sliced bread. Wake up, Etec. I'm sorry that nobody supports the Mac anymore (like they used to), but that doesn't give you any reason to come in and bash anything other than a Mac. Yeah, I'm sure you have a PC as well, especially with 2 Pentium processors (yeah, you don't know what a hack is either) and 1 GB of Sync RAM. Guess what? There's no such thing as DVD-RAM. It will never be, dumbass. There's no sense in using a DVD disc as RAM, as the access speeds on anything mechanical SUCK. Think to yourself. Have you ever seen a CD-RAM drive? Doesn't it sound odd that you are the only one in here boasting about your suck-ass computer, then contradicting yourself a couple posts down?

One other thing, more to the other readers than to you: reread his posts above and below and tell me if it doesn't remind you of a certain little "piggy" fatass named Eric Cartman. Here, I'll quote:
"For one thing why don't you try a voice print password for your windows crap, you can't aww thats too bad."
I wonder if he has a high-pitched voice too, just like Cartman. How about it, Etec? What's your name stand for? Eric T. E. Cartman? What are the two middle initials for, "Tubby Elephant?" I'll stop for now. It's been so much fun making fun of you as you protect your sweet Mac and your 83+. Keep it up.

~ferich

     1 November 1999, 01:28 GMT

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h4X0r  Account Info
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Sorry to bust your bubble but there is DVD-RAM. It's kinda like CD-RW actually. He didn't mean that he was going to use it as RAM, bu as a storage device. Anyways I didn't even know they made them for the Mac! I've only seen PC versions, isnt that ironic.

     1 November 1999, 02:18 GMT

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Erich Oelschlegel  Account Info
(Web Page)

Then why is it called RAM if it's not? I know he was referring to the DVD-RW, but the use of RAM in that sentence is retarded. Perhaps there is something called that, but it's not the correct title for it.

     1 November 1999, 15:01 GMT


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h4X0r  Account Info
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I don't know! It's just friggin name! I didn't name it that way. I work at a computer store and that is what they are called okay.

     1 November 1999, 16:52 GMT


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Etec Account Info
(Web Page)

Well Tocoma park middleschool uses macs and they have a dvd ram.

     2 November 1999, 01:17 GMT


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Etec Account Info
(Web Page)

No Etec stands for electronic tecnical. So shut the fuck up. I ment International Busness Machine for one thing, sorry for the mistake IBM, your computers are okay. They do support the mac more than ever, I have a PC, I do have dual pentium processers in my PC. I only bash the PC because people Bash the mac. And none of my computers suck.

I actually have a low voice for my age people who call me actually mistake me for my father and I am not fat. Sorry I can't prove any of this to you by showing you but you would be too stupid to notice you were wrong. Maby you should go bite an explosive bullet. Shut the Fuck up I would like the rest my fingers from typing at an rpm of 100 wpm.

     2 November 1999, 01:24 GMT


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Erich Oelschlegel  Account Info
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Do you not know what RPM stands for? It's mostly used in "car talk," where it measures how fast the engine is running in Revolutions Per Minute. I don't see how your hands could do a that sort of thing. And don't think that all your spelling mistakes are pure typos, many of them are, but the majority of them are from blatant ignorance of the correct spelling. I think it's okay that you're only 13. That doesn't excuse your stupidity. My sister in 5th grade can spell better than you can. (I do like your uniquity in spelling - "it's self" and "maby" - that's great.) In that Cartman comparison, I wasn't saying your voice was high-pitched due to the fact that you haven't hit puberty yet, I was only making a reference to Cartman. If you're lucky, I'll stop insulting you and your gay-ass computer and 83+, only due to boredom. :)

~ferich

     2 November 1999, 07:06 GMT

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Etec Account Info
(Web Page)

Shut up, it was a metafore.

     3 November 1999, 00:40 GMT


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yoshii hiro  Account Info

metaphore. poor kid, so many of us have lives which are so pathetic that we have nothing better to do than make jokes about your spelling. By the way, macs are better for the operating system.

     4 November 1999, 01:58 GMT

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Erich Oelschlegel  Account Info
(Web Page)

metaphor. Get it right when you criticize somebody else's spelling. :)

~ferich

     4 November 1999, 15:09 GMT


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Etec Account Info
(Web Page)

No offence but is there any word you don't know how to spell, xilaphone, apathetic. Oh wait I just spelled an 8th grade GT word right. I spell the simple words more that the advanced ones. Corruption is what this world has.

     5 November 1999, 03:13 GMT


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Etec Account Info
(Web Page)

At least somebody shares the same thoughts as me. As I said I have a bad memory, Spelling needs memory. I feel like a flash calculator that has worn its flash chips out or a hard drive where every sector is bad.
Quote from one of m&m's songs "I'm going to attempt to dround my self. You can try this at home. You can be just like me."
Hey, I'm bad with letters but If someone taught me hex or binary I would learn it the easiest. Most people don't regester numbers very easely(which I know is misspelled). Does anyone here have an artistic enough mind to figure out why I like to "Think Diffrent" apples mado(I think thats wrong).

     5 November 1999, 03:19 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
Etec Account Info
(Web Page)

One reason I may have used rpm is because I am upsessed with racing, cars, and anything that goes for more power. Hey, thats why I have mostly car games on my computers like driver, Need For Speed III and High Stakes, and a couple others.

     3 November 1999, 01:05 GMT


Macs are trash!
Ron! Account Info
(Web Page)

Amen!!!! All macs are trash!!!! I hope TI never makes any SDK for any mac! They are slow as mud, look like they were made by 2 yr olds, and what's up with the dumb round mouse on the iTrash? They keep changing directions in your hand, you can't get a good grip on 'em, and no 2nd button? How are you supposed to do stuff with out one? Any speed it has over a pc is lost in user time lag! Oh yeah. What flavor of Linux do you people use? I'm thinking about getting either Debian or Slackware, anything is better than Windoze (macintrash excluded).

just my $2.50 worth.

Ron

     30 October 1999, 22:27 GMT


Re: Macs are trash!
Etec Account Info
(Web Page)

Amen, You are trash.
When anyone insults the mac they..
(X)Suck
( )Own a pc
(X)Have shove a serial mouse up their as*
(X)Have a mental problem
(X)(Simpler for retards)are retarded
( )Own a mac
(X)Are nerds
(X)Have shoved a ti up their as*
(X)Probly had a bad child hood (if not in it)
(X)Need to be put on mad tv and made fun of
( )Have talked to Bill Gates
( )Know Bill Gates
( )Know Steve Jobs
(X)are punks
(X)Probly have no life
(X)Bad programer
(X)Don't like macs, duh
(X)Will sometime in their life highjack a skateboard
( )Watch baby shows

To all you mac haters, to redeam your self for the insults you have said you must.
(X)Jump off a clift
(X)Jump in front of a nascar
( )Eat dirt
(X)Bang you head againsed a rock 500 times
(X)Must go to hell
(X)Must shut up for 2 years. PERIOD!!!
(X)never talk about a mac baddly
( )Say sorry
( )Get a drink
(X)Dring clorox bleach
(X)Fall down the steps.
(X)Ask a big person who hates you to punch you in the stomach 500 times.
If none of those cause you to die you should shoot your self to death.

I would like to say
*All mac fans hate you
*We know you suck
*We want you to die
*I really loved typing this
*I am getting board of this format
*Maby I'll come up with my own.
*I want you to flame me with my email address.
*Suggest ticalc gets a realtime chat so I can cuss you out in realtime.
*Good bye Fayo if you hate macs. Fayo is a spanish word that I probly spelt wrong.

     30 October 1999, 22:50 GMT

Re: Re: Macs are trash!
yoshii hiro  Account Info

daz tight. Macs are happy creatures.

     30 October 1999, 23:26 GMT

Re: Re: Macs are trash!
Erich Oelschlegel  Account Info
(Web Page)

Ummmm...you also "spelt" most of your English words wrong, too, by the way. :) And get it right. PC owners don't hate Mac fans, we just think they didn't get on the right train when it came by.

Nobody in their right mind would say an Intel processor even comes close to the G4. It's factual evidence, not somebody's opinion. However, don't look at your hardware and say that constitutes a Mac. What sucks about your systems are the OS itself. It's not supported by really anything, and what's sad is the fact that since you don't have any programs to run (other than that retarded puzzle program), you go and emulate Windows in order to run our programs that you want so bad. Another thing: how come your superior minds are still sticking with ONE-BUTTON mice? What use is that? Just take away features, why don't you? Menus don't stay open, you have to hold the button down the whole time, and the mice are "ergonomically" designed to fit in the palm of a newborn (your hockey-puck iMac mouse isn't comfortable, either).

As for your Windows bashing, I can't say that Windows is perfect. If I had my choice (it's my roommate's computer), I'd run Linux. It's got a way better interface than your gay MacOS (customizable with GUIs), and is more supported than the Mac, even though it hasn't been out for a third as long as the Mac! And the benefit of it is that it's entirely free.

As for your immaturity, what kind of response is that? We're not threatening your life or telling you to "go to hell," are we? If you know your system is "superior," why do you always defend it? It makes YOU and IT look inferior. Everybody has a right to choose what kind of computer they want when they buy it. I'm not bashing you for choosing the Mac. I'm bashing the Mac itself.

~ferich

     31 October 1999, 01:25 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Macs are trash!
yoshii hiro  Account Info

That so? I thought most mac users used them because they like the operating system, not because of the superior hardware. btw, you don't have to hold down the mouse button to keep menu's open unless your using a really old system with no software. also, we mac users do have programmable multi-button mice, it's just that most people don't use them. we think that our operating system works better and is easier to use, and you think yours is. It's just a difference of opinion. tell me though, most people actually use IBM's because of program compatibility (specifically more games), right? who would use the mac os if they had it for PC, instead of windows

     31 October 1999, 01:48 GMT

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Etec Account Info
(Web Page)

Thats why I use it, I like the whole system.

     31 October 1999, 02:07 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Macs are trash!
Erich Oelschlegel  Account Info
(Web Page)

Right. I'd rather have a computer that crashes more often playing games than a computer with no games at all.

~ferich

     31 October 1999, 02:49 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Macs are trash!
Bobman  Account Info

In our school, we have a couple iMacs, a few G3's and about a million Power PC's and Macs (those funny ones that is just one big block). I hate them!!! They are slower than sh*t comming out of a constipating man and they actually take time to save a one page essay!!! I tried to save a document full of pictures and it took almost 10 minutes!!! Also, my english grade is always 5% lower than normal(it's like that for everybody) because of the retarded spreadsheet on those retarded Power PC's! All I can say is that they suck like crap. I hate them and they're absolutely no good.

--Bobman

     31 October 1999, 04:44 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Macs are trash!
Etec Account Info
(Web Page)

Maby because you school network sucks. Try saving to the hard drive, or a newer network. Idiot.

     31 October 1999, 22:41 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Macs are trash!
Etec Account Info
(Web Page)

Exactly, when you bash the mac you are bashing me. I feel a certin connection to all of my electonic devices. For one thing why don't you try a voice print password for your windows crap, you can't aww thats too bad. Hey there are billions of programs I can run on a mac, the only reason for the PC emulator would be so we can see your programs with better resolution. For another thing the "Hockey puck mouse" is comfortable if you know how to use it right. Why don't you try my favorite computer game EV Override, oh I forgot you only have a PC which only has one sucky mac emulator. The GUI for mac just looks diffrent, but it is better. For all you lazy people who have to just use a start menu make an atlas or in pc terms a shortcut to link to it and put it in the thing that some people use called the Launcher. Oh I'm sorry the only thing you have ever used on a mac for a gui is At Ease, if you ever used finder you'd see how much better it is. As for the menus not staying open, if you need to get the menu to stay open goto the mac control panels and select the assistance panel (that's not really the name) with the HANDYCAP SYMBOL to show you are retarded and make it keep the menus open. Windows is just a rip off of Mac OS. When a mac starts up it loads everything before letting you do anything, the windows computer can crash from people who don't know how to wait before starting a program. Want more reasons the mac is better? email me at B12386@juno.com and flame me. I hope this string stops now. I'm getting tired of defending my self.

P.S. My mac has gotten me through the worst of times with school work because of it's MAC FEATURES. This is why I feel so close to it. What does my PC do, crash while saving an MS-DOS game. Now what do you have to say about that. Hey some of the games for some of you babies were developed on the mac quake, Myst, riven, etc.

     31 October 1999, 02:15 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Macs are trash!
Erich Oelschlegel  Account Info
(Web Page)

Actually, MS-DOS is probably the best operating system there is. It's so good, I consider it invincible. It has never crashed, and is the base system for most x86 shells. That's why Windows sucks, because it's not a true operating system, it's just a program running other programs.

BTW, isn't it great knowing that any big name software company (other than Adobe) considers the Mac a last option in terms of sales? I would hate getting new programs months, even years after it's off the shelves.

I would hate reassuring myself every day when I wake up, saying, "Macs rule. Macs rule. Macs rule."

~ferich

     31 October 1999, 03:03 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Macs are trash!
Etec Account Info
(Web Page)

MS DOS SUCKS BECAUSE IT HAS THE WORST INTERFACE I HAVE EVER SEEN. I don't wake up saying macs rule, I only pick a fight when someone makes fun of a good operating system. id software made some sotware on a mac, Microsoft acutally wants make mac software. Usualy if a company makes it for both platforms they relese the both at the same time. The mac has some things that the PC does not so shut the hell up.

P.S. The mac has more software then linux does so if you diss the mac about not having enough software, then people who run linux as their main system should be offended.

     31 October 1999, 22:46 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Macs are trash!
Erich Oelschlegel  Account Info
(Web Page)

Sierra originally was going to make Half-Life for the Mac, but they reconsidered after they realized that Macs have no purpose.

~ferich

     1 November 1999, 15:08 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Macs are trash!
Etec Account Info
(Web Page)

Actully they have a lot of purpose. Go get one and get everything in the world for it so you can find it.

     2 November 1999, 00:32 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Macs are trash!
raw33 Account Info

What's an electonic device?

     31 October 1999, 03:15 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Macs are trash!
Etec Account Info
(Web Page)

okay dummy, just used one to post that stupid message.

     31 October 1999, 22:38 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Macs are trash!
Etec Account Info
(Web Page)

okay dummy, you just used one to post that stupid message.

     31 October 1999, 22:38 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Macs are trash!
raw33 Account Info

Geez! I was just joking!

     31 October 1999, 23:29 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Macs are trash!
raw33 Account Info

Actually, I think "spelt" acutally used to be spelled that way.

     31 October 1999, 03:13 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Macs are trash!
Erich Oelschlegel  Account Info
(Web Page)

Key words: "used to be"

~ferich

     31 October 1999, 05:45 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Macs are trash!
raw33 Account Info

Exactly.

     31 October 1999, 14:11 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Macs are trash!
Etec Account Info
(Web Page)

oh shutup. The internet is not a spelling contest. As long as you understand it, I don't care.

     31 October 1999, 22:39 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Macs are trash!
meingts Account Info

I prefer to think of words such as spelt as British variants of the past participle.

     2 November 1999, 06:21 GMT

Re: Re: Macs are trash!
raw33 Account Info

Are you tying to say Goodbye ugly with "Good bye Fayo"? A) It's spelled feo and B) learn how hablar español!

     31 October 1999, 14:14 GMT


Re: Re: Macs are trash!
The_Professor  Account Info

um...NO. I just have to say that you are wrong.

     31 October 1999, 15:53 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Macs are trash!
Etec Account Info
(Web Page)

Umm yes, I'm right, Whats the extra space for in your screen name, oh I know you were going to use a name that actually describes you. The stupid Professor. Or better yet the nutty professor. Watch what you eat.

And for all you people upsesed with spelling try figuring out this "retun, qball, dumy".

Now shut up calling macs trash.

     31 October 1999, 22:50 GMT

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Etec Account Info
(Web Page)

The Imac looks better than your square cardboard PC any day. And I agree that Your macs are probly 5-10 years old. Try the G3 or G4.

     30 October 1999, 21:41 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
Erich Oelschlegel  Account Info
(Web Page)

You know, now that I think about it, the iMac does have a nice shape to it...perfect size for kicking it like a soccer ball. I should try that one day.

~ferich

     1 November 1999, 15:11 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
Etec Account Info
(Web Page)

Hey the PC has the perfect shape for draging around behind a truck, dropping it in water, beating it with a slege hammer and burning in a fire. Wow I never knew someone could actually kick a computer around like a soccer ball, of course who would be stupid enough to break their foot, Oh I know you crack head.

     2 November 1999, 01:28 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
The_Professor  Account Info

I agree, except that I would't use the term "fruity" to describe imacs. The colors don't really matter, but there is NO floppy drive, CD RW drive, no Removable storage media at all! And the mice that come with the imacs suck. Those two things (not the colors) make the imac worse than all other macs.

     30 October 1999, 21:45 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
Etec Account Info
(Web Page)

Try buying those extras sepratly. You can have up to like 150 connected at a time.

P.S. The imac mouse rules, hey you can sodder a led to it to make it light up. Cool huh.

P.S.S. Mac's only crash in schools for some reason, I wonder why. Maby it is that they keep them on 24 hours a day. The high school I'm going to has pentium III's with Windows 98. They crash more than my middle schools old LC macs did.

     30 October 1999, 22:09 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
raw33 Account Info

LC's don't support enough things to make them crash! If your system isn't overloaded and pulling its weight, what's the point of using it?

     31 October 1999, 03:16 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
Etec Account Info
(Web Page)

yes our do. The barely have enough ram free. And it is better to use a relaxed system.

     31 October 1999, 22:51 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
raw33 Account Info

Perhaps. I like to get my money's worth out of a computer (even if I didn't directly pay for it).

     31 October 1999, 23:27 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
Etec Account Info
(Web Page)

So do I but my computers controls most of the devices in my room but it still is not overworked.

My PC Sound/DVD movies.
My Mac everything Else including Graphics.

No really my mac and pc have voice reconition so it can turn my tv on.

     31 October 1999, 23:43 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
barich Account Info
(Web Page)

If you use your PC "sometimes" and "when you have to" is there a reason you have 1 GB RAM? Also, your data inconsistencies lead me to believe that you have none of that. If your system was actually that new and powerful, why do you have a RagePro? That is a 2 1/2 year old chip. I have a RagePro on my other computer and it barely does 10 fps in 800x600 in about any 3D game. Even with DirectX 7 and AGP enabled it doesn't do any better. If you like ATI so much you should at least have a Rage 128 Pro instead of a RagePro. Your inconsistencies cause me to believe that you have NO idea what you are talking about. My Athlon could be whatever Mac you have because of the lousy and non-automatic memory management. It is not intuitive to have to open the get info dialog to alter the amount of RAM each program consumes. Haven't things improved since 1984, when it was the same way? Windows, Linux, and BeOS, although far from perfect in different ways, at least can figure out how to allocate memory by themsleves. Any other false statements that I can rebut with actual facts? This is getting fun. I should set up a forum just to continue this when this news item is demoted to the archives.

Oh, by the way, look at my other complaints about Macs and mac users on my web site above.

     2 November 1999, 01:29 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
Etec Account Info
(Web Page)

My computer is less than a year old, does the word upgrade mean anything to you. Well thats why I have all that. and my graphics accellerator is actually a 3d rage lt pro. The speed of your graphics accellerator is not just limited by its self it is limited by your mother board too. True I need to get an ATI Rage Furry but don't ask me why I did not customize my Compaq with a better graphics accelerator. Anyway it does 3d well and at a smooth speed for me so thats all I really care about. I don't care if it is not top of the line. I'll get a new one or a new computer by the time this one is worthless to me.

P.S. Ewww a starwars site thumbwars would make a better movie than starwars. "Loak I am your mother!!!" funniest line in the 30 minutes or how about "Black helmet man, you are bad, you are bad and we are good, your badness will be the end of you and our goodness will be our (some word), bad is bad, good is good, bad bad good bad, good good bad good good bad." or how about "I am a pupet, from benith the floor a man does control me.... train you will will i train you I will, yes, first step touch your tonge to mine." or "I owe guva the butt a lot of money and hes right over their" All of those were from thumb wars.

     2 November 1999, 01:50 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
barich Account Info
(Web Page)

Despite the fact that I am going to be less insulting I had to say something about the "Rage Furry" before I stop.

     2 November 1999, 22:38 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
barich Account Info
(Web Page)

Despite the fact that I am going to be less insulting I had to say something about the "Rage Furry" before I stop.

     2 November 1999, 22:38 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
Etec Account Info
(Web Page)

Go ahead, criticize it but not by saying it just sucks. Say something like its slow or something. I know the first one had blured graphics but the new one has that fixed.

     5 November 1999, 23:17 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-83 Plus SDK Released
Etec Account Info
(Web Page)

Also your site sucks ass.

     2 November 1999, 01:56 GMT


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Yes, I know. It hasn't been updated since July and I don't intend to do so because I am totally sick of it and I don't have enough time anyways. The only reason I mentioned it is because of the Mac vs PC article that I wrote. Let's see:

1. You like Macs
2. You hate Star Wars
3. You like Pokémon

What is wrong with you? Do you have some sort of short-circuit in your brain? I am confused as to why you have a ATI Rage LT Pro, CONSIDERING THAT IT IS A LAPTOP CHIP AND NOT AVAILABLE ON DESKTOP PCs. As in LapTop. Don't try to tell me that you either made a mistake or your supercomputer is a laptop, because there are currently no DVD-RAM drives for laptops. Also, no laptop that I know of has enough slots for 1GB RAM. Come on and give it up, we all know that you have no such computer.

     2 November 1999, 02:50 GMT


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Let me tell you the story of why having COMPAQ setup your computer hardware. My graphics accellerator is A 3d Rage Pro compaq installed the wrong driver, does that make you happy. The driver is for a laptop but I have the desktop verson of the card. Since compaq does not give you the drivers on a disk you can't really fix it. So there I do have such a computer, don't tell me to give it up when you have never seen it. Hey, how do I know whats his name has a 1GHZ chip in his computer, I don't, I only have two pentium II's at 400 mhz on my computer. See everything I said is true, you just don't belive me because you are jellous that you have something less. Don't blame me that computers get out of date so fast, my PC is not even a year old and the being able to walk into a store and buy a game has almost ended. My one of my macs are a macintosh performa 631CD, with 8mb, 500mb of hard drive space, a 14.4k modem a 13 inch monitor a Color Style Writer 2400 a jaz 1GB a 2x CD rom inferred, and a few other old features. My other one is the best G3 you can get of course I don't have a G4, I lied about that one because I was tired of people bragging. Okay happy now you talked it out of me. Fine now what do you want me to do next, stop insulting people for making fun of my computers which is making fun of me, I won't do that.

     2 November 1999, 03:41 GMT


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Man... This thread is getting deep!

     2 November 1999, 22:28 GMT


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Etec Account Info
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I agree, it is also slowing down the load time of this message board. Stop cloging up the board with platform wars people.

     3 November 1999, 00:36 GMT


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The G4 Processor is indeed faster than a Pentium III at the same MHz rating. However, the Mac OS's horrible memory management and stupid cooperative multitasking suck up any adavntage of the PowerPC processor and make it slower than a PIII with the same MHz. Also, the Mac OS is not easier to use, with no right mouse button there is a lot more moving to the menu bar or using inane keyboard commands that doesn't happen in Windows. The Mac OS does crash less than Windows, but when it does, it DOES. In Windows, system crashes rarely bring the entire computer down and even if a part of Windows crashes such as Explorer or Systray they will automatically restart and you can save your work. I have used G4s without FoolProof and At Ease and they freeze up solid constantly even with OS 9. There is less software for Macs, especially games, and the only 3D video card company that makes Mac 3D cards is ATI, the worst 3D chip maker on the planet. And I personally would like some serial and parallel ports and a floppy drive, please.

AMD Athlon and Linux are even better that the PIII and Windows, and much better than the Mac OS. Does the Mac have a 200 MHz frontside bus? Sorry for busting your bubble.

Wow, that was long. I guess it was about $5.00 worth.

     30 October 1999, 21:42 GMT


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Etec Account Info
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Some of the things you mentioned actually make it easier to use than the PC. Not as complex mouse. Some people have trouble with the two more three button mouses.

I do agree it has poor memory management (memory leaks) but it has better memory management for programs. Allowcating the amount of ram it can use.

     30 October 1999, 22:11 GMT

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Lanile

You know monkeys are able to press 3 mouse buttons without difficulty, says a lot about mac users.

     31 October 1999, 00:32 GMT


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Etec Account Info
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Yea they can, but they don't know what each of the do. I think I made my point by now. Anyway I use a PC too with two buttons and I know all the diffrences. Plus you don't have to waste your time with maintaining your mac, with a PC you do for better responses. Also the only way to fix some problems with pc's is that you have to format drive C and reinstall everything.

     31 October 1999, 02:10 GMT


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not that I am for or against any certain system, but extra mice buttons don't tend to be complex :P

     1 November 1999, 05:30 GMT


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Yes it does make it more complex. If you give someone instructions who does not know a lot about computers, you will have to say left click instead of just click. I get fustrated when instructing people at offices who just got a pc and have trouble understanding what button does what.

     2 November 1999, 00:36 GMT


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From the inconsistencies in your posts, I would find no reason that ANY office would hire you to "instruct" its employees on how to use a PC. You obviously know nothing about computers, heck, you even think that a refrigerated chip means that somebody put his computer in the fridge. I knew you lied from the start about your computers, you even acknowledged it above! Why must you lie, just so you can "gain the upper hand" on a message board? It just makes you look stupid.

~ferich

     2 November 1999, 07:15 GMT

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Etec Account Info
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Well I'm sorry to say I did not lie about my computers. The graphics accellerator was compaqs mistake (wrong driver for the graphics accellerator). I still have everything I said at first, I did not mention my mac the 8mb one but I still have everything I said.

     3 November 1999, 00:31 GMT

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Well I'm sorry to say I did not lie about my computers. The graphics accellerator was compaqs mistake (wrong driver for the graphics accellerator). I still have everything I said at first, I did not mention my mac the 8mb one but I still have everything I said. Oh and not to gain an upper hand. Also I learned about the athlon just after that post, before I thought they were making a joke like saying that their computer was freshly made. I did not even know that the Athlon was a chip. Oh well bye.

     3 November 1999, 00:32 GMT

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Etec Account Info
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Oh yea, people do hire me for ti 8x help and computer help (Mac, windows).

     3 November 1999, 00:34 GMT


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Again I would like to say I did NOT lie. I only acknowledged that my computer was not better than his by processer. Again I would say the processer is NOT the only thing that counts in a computer. All that really matters is if it does it's, excuse me its job correctly.

I use it's because sometimes it is as stubborn (I don't know if that was "spelled" correctly) as me. Now next time you see a comment from me read it carefully, you may find that it is the opposite of what you think.

NO FLAMES ABOUT SPELLING PLEASE.

Oh yea maby or is it maybe someone will stop platform wars and talk about the SDK. Wow does anyone know why the 'halt' command will not work for me in my asm programs.

     3 November 1999, 01:16 GMT

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