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Tinux by Olivier Borowski
Posted by Nick on 23 October 1999, 20:37 GMT

Aaron Chernosky provided me with a link to a page carrying a shell that I (and it seems like everyone else) never knew existed before (though it was apparently updated in August): Tinux. As you can see from the screenshot, it looks pretty neat; this assembly shell for the 86 has a lot of great features. This program was created by Olivier Borowski, and sadly, the entire program (source, text and everything else) is in French. English port, anyone? :)

Completely Unrelated Update (Nick): Today, we once again broke the weekly request record with 1,638,602 page requests for the week of October 17. The previous record was set last week, October 10, with 1,623,549 requests - about 15,000 less. Yay.

 


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Re: Tinux by Olivier Borowski
Vejita

I translated the french and it sounds ok.

-Vejita

     23 October 1999, 20:42 GMT


Re: Re: Tinux by Olivier Borowski
brentes
(Web Page)

What? What does that mean? Could you explain further....

     23 October 1999, 22:36 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Tinux by Olivier Borowski
Vejita

Note the comment by Doziedo, thats what i meant :)

-Vejita

     23 October 1999, 23:41 GMT

Re: Tinux by Olivier Borowski
pcflyer1  Account Info
(Web Page)

Seems good, although I don't know French it's not too hard to figure out what everything does. Very lagre though.

     23 October 1999, 21:16 GMT

Re: Tinux by Olivier Borowski
DWedit  Account Info
(Web Page)

To do online translations, (Netscape only) drag the Web Page link into your toolbar. It will translate the active page.

To translate text, follow the link, but replace the URL with some text.

(yes, it's the same as the lame babelfish)

     23 October 1999, 21:49 GMT

Re: Re: Tinux by Olivier Borowski
Vejita

heh. One should never dis da fish. I will take a weird tough to get exact meaning over not knowing what a program is like or what info may help me :)


-Vejita(i speak the truth, stop hitting me nick, i finish)

     23 October 1999, 22:01 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Tinux by Olivier Borowski
Gockies  Account Info
(Web Page)

Why are you dissing babelfish? I depend on that to do my Spanish homework!!!

     24 October 1999, 04:30 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Tinux by Olivier Borowski
Rob Hornick  Account Info

roflmao!!!

     25 October 1999, 03:32 GMT


Re: Re: Tinux by Olivier Borowski
raw33 Account Info
(Web Page)

If you don't like it, check these links out (Web Page).

     24 October 1999, 22:25 GMT

Re: Tinux by Olivier Borowski
Arcades  Account Info

Its a nice shell, but it is just too damn big! (>12k with everything)

     23 October 1999, 22:09 GMT


Re: Re: Tinux by Olivier Borowski
Rackford Smith  Account Info
(Web Page)

then don't use it

     24 October 1999, 03:35 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Tinux by Olivier Borowski
Arcades  Account Info

Who said i did?

     24 October 1999, 20:50 GMT

Re: Tinux by Olivier Borowski
brentes
(Web Page)

I saw this shell about a month ago, and played around with it. I too was disappointed that it was in French. I went to babelfish.altavista.com, and started translating the french asm source. But, when I tried to compile it, all the include files had weird characters as file names and it kept giving me errors. So I stopped. Looks pretty good though.

     23 October 1999, 22:10 GMT


Re: Re: Tinux by Olivier Borowski
T0ad111  Account Info
(Web Page)

All you need to do is to translate the variables for the menu items to english

     24 October 1999, 02:24 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Tinux by Olivier Borowski
raw33 Account Info

and leave the rom calls intact

     24 October 1999, 22:16 GMT

Re: Tinux by Olivier Borowski
DOZIEDO  Account Info
(Web Page)

Bad: Unstable, large, in french
Good:ABSOLUTELY FREAKIN AWESOME Graphics (Love the penguin background) resizable and windows, smoothe scrolling, configurable,an actual file sustem, no more program grouping, it has nested folders and file copy/paste. This is truely amazing. If someone would port it to english and fix some of the MANY bugs, it would be better than anything out for even the 68k calcs!!!

     23 October 1999, 22:58 GMT

Re: Re: Tinux by Olivier Borowski
MicroLITH Account Info

It might be better but it still takes up 85% of your ram... whereas I can archive, and it's only a drop in my bucket... :P

Oh, and I'm looking to port uCLinux to the 89...

     24 October 1999, 07:54 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Tinux by Olivier Borowski
DOZIEDO  Account Info
(Web Page)

Heh, you're right that this thing is obscenely huge, however, I'd like to point out that this shell, when installed, does *not* take up 80% of the 86's ram, it takes up roughly 21k out of the 96k of ram that is available to the user. And that obviously turns out to be only 20% (heh, "ONLY" you say, yes it is big, but not 80%). Get your numbers right ;). As for the 89's archive. Yes, I muct admit, the archive ownz all the other non-flash rom calcs, however, let's hope TI will come out with an 86+ with a even larger archive than the 89 ;)

Other things I would like to point out about Tinux. The multitasking that the author claims Tinux has is only when you have programs optimized for Tinux. This means that the program muct have a windowed interface similar to the program explorer (translated directly from french "Folders") and the configuration window. AFAIK there can only be 5 optimized programs running at the same time but I very seriously doubt the stability of this system, there has to be a check to make sure there is enough ram to have them open. 'Tis difficult but deffinately possible.

Now, for something all you non-francophones, it's quite hard to understand what anything does because the program is entirely in french. Welp buddy, either learn french or get someone to port it. Now, I think that this program will get a very warm responce from the 86 users (it certainly has gotten one from me) and finding someone who knows french and is good at assembly to port it into an english version should not be too hard.

     24 October 1999, 22:19 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Tinux by Olivier Borowski
DOZIEDO  Account Info
(Web Page)

Okay, this is very ironic. After I said "get your numbers right" and posted the comment, I noticed I stated that you said it took up 80% of the 86's memory. In reality you said 85%, sorry.

     25 October 1999, 04:00 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Tinux by Olivier Borowski
Kaxman  Account Info

I wanna see the archive that'll beat what we'll (hopefully) have when ROM 2.00 comes out

     25 October 1999, 20:22 GMT


Where's Clem?
Muad~Dip  Account Info

Your comment about French ASM'ers reminded me of CLEM. He is French, and he's good at ASM. His Maze3D was a brilliant feat of programming, although it lacks replayability. I was wondering if he might be willing to port this.

     27 October 1999, 02:26 GMT


Re: Re: Tinux by Olivier Borowski
Kristo  Account Info

Tinux is a really great shell - it's really cool to see something like windows on a calc. The only problem I've found (I speak french so the language isn't it) is that the program gives you an error when it tries to detect the program type of a locked BASIC program. I haven't tried it with programs for other calcs (some shells support them) yet, so that's the only problem I have with it for now.

     27 October 1999, 05:35 GMT

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