The attitude of TI seriously becomes to irritate me.
Instead of produceing slightly improved versions of their calculators(like CASIO this also make me think to Street fighter series) they should:
-Stop the productions of the TI82 and of the TI85
-Strongly improve the OS of their Flash caclculators(especially TI89/92+) as well as providing valuable applications
-Start the developpement of their next top of line
because their actual calc will be certainly blown
away by the next HP
That's all !

I agree with you... But Casio are not innovative, they are a littlle bit like Micro$oft, they imitate. TI begun to sell symbolic calcs, they too beguns selling one. But it is a really big shit!!! It is slower than slow, has no ASM and the icon menu really sucks!... And the symbolic manipulation isn't perfect... The case looks ugly and the same calculator has different name in each country, this really sucks when you are searching the net for programs...

First of all, why would anyone want to upgrade their old calculators to be excessively different. If you upgraded a TI-82 to have more memory, higher resolution, or other things. If they did this then calculators would become incompatible amoung a series. Who would want to have to port their programs to every new version of a calculator that comes out? No one. I think it's a good idea that TI put the 82 in a new case, a lot of school purchase them, (for good reason, because they're cheap, and effective) So long as the price remains the same, then I say: "Go for it TI!" Why not change the case, it's not like it's gonna cost more money to make (no new internals, just new outside) And it's an imitation of the 89, so they probably have everything there ready to use it to change the case.

I'm happy with my 89 :-)

...and so am i!...
But i had to make a comment because i was one of the first 83 owner in my school 3 years ago.
I totally agree with people who say that the 83 games are mostly ports from the 82. But if you look at all basic features the 83 is much better featured? no? The 83 has complex, finance (i never used them), strings and so... But i think that the 82 is much more better for ASM, have you compared PENGUINS on a 82 and on the 83? On the 82 it just run as fast as on the 86!!!... And greyscale graphics are better than on the 83...
So to summ up: if you don't need complex, strings & finance save monney and buy a 82!...

Could it be that TI plans on updating the look of all of its calculators that it plans to keep in production? Could be...
So does that mean the TI-85 could be discontinued next? Very possible. And the same might be said for the TI-86 too, unless TI plans on giving a press release on the TI-86 Plus (PLEASES!!).

TI may want all of the calculators to look the same so that a teacher can not tell what calc. a student has.
That is all of my ignorant comment.

Hell ya, I wish my teachers couldn't tell the difference between an 89 and an 82

I'd be willing to guess that having all 8x calcs with the same size/type case - even if it's not the same color - cuts production costs for TI. Just a guess, but a possibility.

Uh, they already said they weren't going to make a TI-86+.

I really think that there is NO need for an 86+ anyway. In my school, me and my 89 cannot be used for ANY math test. Why, it simply does TOO much. Yes you might say... a calculator can never do to much but in the 89's it does. In my math class all of the math can be done with the touch on one button. Yes it is good to have on the SAT's but not for regular math( unless your teacher allows it). The TI-86 is an EXCELLENT calculator right now to own. It does everything necessary for math right up until dif equ 2! Also, ASM on the 86 is right now the most currently developed. There is no reason for it to be upgraded any more than it is cause if it is upgraded any more it will become a TI-89.

Peace-
Raven

Well, my math department banned 92(+)'s now i can't use mine. So i bought an 89, which looks almost the same as an 83+/86 does from the back. I still haven't told my teacher i have an 89, so i use it whenever i want. hahahaha.

What I don't understand is why ticalc didn't announce this for the 83. It's been in the new style case/buttons for a while. Maybe it's because they already announced about the TI-83+, but I'm not sure. Anyways, why update the case of an old calc? I mean, a TI-82 is fine for people who already have them, but I don't think many of us would buy one new anymore, at least, not with the 83+ out. Anyways, yes, the TI-85 probably will be next.

Simple, a TI82 has an extremely hard to see screen. TI83 had a better screen from the beggining. The new screen is the hit with me.

Either it took a while for TI to update its picture of the TI-83 (no plus) on its website, or Nathan didn't see it.

I still own my 3 1/2 year old TI-82 and still use it and I think it's kind of cool that a new case is being made. But in my opinion, TI is just wasting their time although TI fanatics will buy the calculator. On another aspect, is it known whether the new 82 will have a new ROM?

The TI83 in the new case was a new rom version, 1.10. The new TI82 should be no different, but the screenshot looks a tad suspicious...
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Actually, I have to object with you on that. Lots of the 83s in the new cases have rom version 1.08.

most likely, the only reason their doing this is to cut costs. Right not their making 4 different Chassis and 2 types of screens, If they change all of the Ti-8x calculators to be similar to the Ti-89, they will only be making 2 different Chassis and 1 type of screen. This may be a good thing in the way of lower prices on the calculators.

Actually, TI makes (and has made) 4 screens and will continue to, just new high-contrast ones: the 82/83/83+ screen, 85/86 screen, 89 screen, and 92/92+ screen. The new case will likely cut costs, however.

That makes it six different screens before: low and high contrast versions of each of the two 8x screen sizes. So this should save money.